And apart from gautama had anybody got close to this yet? Any living examples?
And what in the world is "conciousness ceases"? You know without being concious???
And apart from gautama had anybody got close to this yet? Any living examples?
the current world is too skeptical
And yet you are the one being skeptical about knowledge in saying " I don't know".cappuccino wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:53 pmthe current world is too skeptical
hence no one will claim anything
You can see and not being conscious of it that you do. This kind of thing is below the intellect, so i don't mean that. What i mean is the knowledge what knows how physical and mental are connected/tangled by the craving. This knowledge can be applied at the moment when consciousness ceases(life-continuum) and impulsion(urge) arises.
With respect,can't you write clearer. This is just convoluted.auto wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:00 pmYou can see and not being conscious of it that you do. This kind of thing is below the intellect, so i don't mean that. What i mean is the knowledge what knows how physical and mental are connected/tangled by the craving. This knowledge can be applied at the moment when consciousness ceases(life-continuum) and impulsion(urge) arises.
When you are aware, there is also the hidden urge. This urge comes known after awareness ceases for a moment. Now what comes next i haven't explained yet, but then you can make this hidden thing appear without awareness taking a dip unless you have came off the path meanwhile, which probably happen anyway 7 times, so no biggy.Zenny wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:38 pmWith respect,can't you write clearer. This is just convoluted.auto wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:00 pmYou can see and not being conscious of it that you do. This kind of thing is below the intellect, so i don't mean that. What i mean is the knowledge what knows how physical and mental are connected/tangled by the craving. This knowledge can be applied at the moment when consciousness ceases(life-continuum) and impulsion(urge) arises.
When in the world and how does conciousness cease but still know?
Hidden urge?auto wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:19 pmWhen you are aware, there is also the hidden urge. This urge comes known after awareness ceases for a moment. Now what comes next i haven't explained yet, but then you can make this hidden thing appear without awareness taking a dip.Zenny wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:38 pmWith respect,can't you write clearer. This is just convoluted.auto wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:00 pm
You can see and not being conscious of it that you do. This kind of thing is below the intellect, so i don't mean that. What i mean is the knowledge what knows how physical and mental are connected/tangled by the craving. This knowledge can be applied at the moment when consciousness ceases(life-continuum) and impulsion(urge) arises.
When in the world and how does conciousness cease but still know?
Yes. That is true!cappuccino wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:41 pm consciousness / awareness never ceases
what is true is that it changes in terms of content
Nagarjuna was a dogmatist, you are right. As far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the way things are asserted to be that's dogmatism, too. However as far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things that simply is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things.
They are all the same dogma.SteRo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:05 pmNagarjuna was a dogmatist, you are right. As far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the way things are asserted to be that's dogmatism, too. However as far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things that simply is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things.
My attitude towards appearing things isn't a dogma because I don't care about the attitude other people have towards things. For me appearing things are neither real, nor not real, nor both, nor neither. But I can live happily with other people considering things to be real.Zenny wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:07 pmThey are all the same dogma.SteRo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:05 pmNagarjuna was a dogmatist, you are right. As far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the way things are asserted to be that's dogmatism, too. However as far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things that simply is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things.
But you think that what you believe is coherent when it's not at all.SteRo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:12 pmMy attitude towards appearing things isn't a dogma because I don't care about the attitude other people have towards things. For me appearing things are neither real, nor not real, nor both, nor neither. But I can live happily with other people considering things to be real.Zenny wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:07 pmThey are all the same dogma.SteRo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:05 pm
Nagarjuna was a dogmatist, you are right. As far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the way things are asserted to be that's dogmatism, too. However as far as "not true, true,not not true etc etc" is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things that simply is an expression of the attitude one has towards appearing things.
not everyone here is clear about Buddhism