Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm
I eat for energy enjoyment and health.
When hungry It's just a desire for more energy. Perfectly natural,beautiful and simple. It's nice to eat with others as well.
Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?
Based on what you said you are hedonist
If one doesn't understand spirituality then one mislabels people.
Avoiding suffering could be construed as hedonistic by your logic.
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm
Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?
you don't experience much stress
hence you don't see the relevance of this religion
And how do you know what I feel?
If a person doesn't feel much stress then that is a bad thing?
Maybe that person has achieved what you practice for. Cessation or reduction of stress.
Shouldn't you be happy for that person?
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:49 pm
If one doesn't understand spirituality then one mislabels people.
Avoiding suffering could be construed as hedonistic by your logic.
If to stop indulgence, it feels bad at first but nice later.
Well your assuming that suffering is an everest for everyone.
And your assuming that all anxiety has to be overcome.
What if I told you anxiety was good,essential, a passion to grow and overcome. A beautiful part of life.
A sportsman before he partakes of an event is a little anxious. That is great! A little Anxiety is passion for success!
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:49 pm
If one doesn't understand spirituality then one mislabels people.
Avoiding suffering could be construed as hedonistic by your logic.
If to stop indulgence, it feels bad at first but nice later.
And when does it stop?
Seeing as nobody seems able to get to nirvana then you are reliant on your desire your whole life.
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm
I eat for energy enjoyment and health.
When hungry It's just a desire for more energy. Perfectly natural,beautiful and simple. It's nice to eat with others as well.
Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?
Based on what you said you are hedonist
I like that. Zenny's earlier expressions of belief in self are simply more explicit than those of buddhists but these are statements that aren't even shared by buddhist self-believers simply because these statements may appear as endorsements of "enjoyment" and "enjoyable things".
"Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?" That's great!
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:38 pm
I eat for energy enjoyment and health.
When hungry It's just a desire for more energy. Perfectly natural,beautiful and simple. It's nice to eat with others as well.
Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?
Based on what you said you are hedonist
I like that. Zenny's earlier expressions of belief in self are simply more explicit than those of buddhists but these are statements that aren't even shared by buddhist self-believers simply because these statements may appear as endorsements of "enjoyment" and "enjoyable things".
"Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?" That's great!
Making simple things like truth into a complex nagajurnan science drama is also what I'm referring to.
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 5:24 pm
Making simple things like truth into a complex nagajurnan science drama is also what I'm referring to.
you would benefit from humility
Your definition and application of humility is not the same as mine.
Replying in full sentences would be a sign of humility.
If you don't know,doesn't mean I don't know. It's humility not to assume you know what I know. Follow your own logic.
If you claim you don't know,then why comment?
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auto wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:32 pm
Based on what you said you are hedonist
I like that. Zenny's earlier expressions of belief in self are simply more explicit than those of buddhists but these are statements that aren't even shared by buddhist self-believers simply because these statements may appear as endorsements of "enjoyment" and "enjoyable things".
"Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?" That's great!
Making simple things like truth into a complex nagajurnan science drama is also what I'm referring to.
Nagarjuna even made the simple thing "truth" into a double thing "two truths"
I like that. Zenny's earlier expressions of belief in self are simply more explicit than those of buddhists but these are statements that aren't even shared by buddhist self-believers simply because these statements may appear as endorsements of "enjoyment" and "enjoyable things".
"Why is it people want to make the simple enjoyable things in life into a complex drama?" That's great!
Making simple things like truth into a complex nagajurnan science drama is also what I'm referring to.
Nagarjuna even made the simple thing "truth" into a double thing "two truths"
Yes. Making a dogma of "two truths" and not true, true,not not true etc etc Is an abuse of clear language and honest communication.
Zenny wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:49 pm
If one doesn't understand spirituality then one mislabels people.
Avoiding suffering could be construed as hedonistic by your logic.
If to stop indulgence, it feels bad at first but nice later.
And when does it stop?
Seeing as nobody seems able to get to nirvana then you are reliant on your desire your whole life.
From that training arises consciousness and when that consciousness ceases, you still retain the knowing what comes useful for not getting corrupted by the passing corruptions.