Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, will find the way that leads beyond it.
Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, will realize Dhamma.
Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, will realize that Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self.
The one leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, who realizes Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, has gone beyond it.
The one leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, who realizes Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, and who has gone beyond it, will find the words to tell someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, searching for the way that leads beyond it, that the one who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, is driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, searching for the way that leads beyond it, who hears or reads the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from searching for the way that leads beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from wanting to know what lies beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from knowing the self.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from knowing what lies beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, released from knowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from the self.
Someone living a life, released from the self, released from knowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released.
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self or identity? do you make distinction between the two or not?
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Why need to release from "Self" when the five aggregates are not even "Self"?
It seems OP is suggesting that there is a "Self" to be released from.
It seems OP is suggesting that there is a "Self" to be released from.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
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Sir, madam, I do not make distinction.josaphatbarlaam wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:09 am self or identity? do you make distinction between the two or not?
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There is certainly a lot of self in the OP.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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Okay, maybe I misunderstood. I think OP was posting about what "non-Dhamma" is. The title given was "non-Dhamma"...
In this case, I wholeheartedly agree with OP with that: what was written in that list is non-Dhamma, since those statements are related to Sassatavada or Ucchedavada.
In this case, I wholeheartedly agree with OP with that: what was written in that list is non-Dhamma, since those statements are related to Sassatavada or Ucchedavada.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.
https://suttacentral.net/ja6/en/chalmer ... ight=false
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What's the point of this preachy monologue?PeterC86 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:21 am Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, will find the way that leads beyond it.
Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, will realize Dhamma.
Someone leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, will realize that Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self.
The one leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, who realizes Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, has gone beyond it.
The one leading a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, who found the way that leads beyond it, who realizes Dhamma comes from someone who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, and who has gone beyond it, will find the words to tell someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, searching for the way that leads beyond it, that the one who found the way that leads beyond it, wanting to know what lies beyond it, is driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, searching for the way that leads beyond it, who hears or reads the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from searching for the way that leads beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from wanting to know what lies beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from knowing the self.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from knowing what lies beyond it.
Someone living a life, driven by the self, released from knowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released from the self.
Someone living a life, released from the self, released from knowing what lies beyond it, released from knowing the self, released from wanting to know what lies beyond it, released from searching for the way that leads beyond it, by the words from the one who has gone beyond it, that the way that leads beyond it, comes from someone wanting to know what lies beyond it, driven by the self, unknowing what lies beyond it, but driven by the self, is released.
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This guy thinks he is enlightened (arahant) , so I wouldn't bother to look for logic in his actions.
How good and wonderful are your days,
How true are your ways?
How true are your ways?
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There is only one battle that could be won, and that is the battle against the 3 poisons. Any other battle is a guaranteed loss because you're going to die either way.
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I thought you had left Dhammawheel Peter. Why the return? Did others not receive you well?
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Choice.josaphatbarlaam wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:32 pmWhat do you mean by something lying beyond self? God?
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All forces unite,
This is the last stand,
You gotta believe.
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Everything that has a beginning, has an end, and this end lies in the middle.
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I don't know the point, but it wrote two stories,
For I am it.