Taoism also talks of the "Great Way", and I believe this work is generally acknowledged to make use of Taoist concepts.
After Buddhism is added with other religious components
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“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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Pretty much any single-character Chinese Buddhist term is also a Dàoist concept. This includes words like unconditioned 無為, emptiness 空/虛, path 道, etc. Why? Dàoism is a Chinese religion. When early Buddhist missionaries translated terms and ideas into Chinese, they necessarily used words already used in Dàoism. They couldn't help but do so. The word "meditation," before the 1900s, had largely Christian contemplative overtones, if I'm not mistaken. The word "meditation" also means "to mull something over in your head" in this earlier usage, and in many ways was a terrible fit for Buddhist "meditative" activity. Over time, the word has been able to drift closer to having a native Buddhist sense.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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Re: After Buddhism is added with other religious components
The suttas have that kind of meditation on topics as well, like on impermanence, etc.Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:21 pmThe word "meditation," before the 1900s, had largely Christian contemplative overtones, if I'm not mistaken. The word "meditation" also means "to mull something over in your head" in this earlier usage, and in many ways was a terrible fit for Buddhist "meditative" activity.
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So you read dhyāna in the Chāndogyopaniṣad as the same as Buddhist dhyāna, rather than simply “meditation” then?Coëmgenu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:21 pm Pretty much any single-character Chinese Buddhist term is also a Dàoist concept. This includes words like unconditioned 無為, emptiness 空/虛, path 道, etc. Why? Dàoism is a Chinese religion. When early Buddhist missionaries translated terms and ideas into Chinese, they necessarily used words already used in Dàoism. They couldn't help but do so. The word "meditation," before the 1900s, had largely Christian contemplative overtones, if I'm not mistaken. The word "meditation" also means "to mull something over in your head" in this earlier usage, and in many ways was a terrible fit for Buddhist "meditative" activity. Over time, the word has been able to drift closer to having a native Buddhist sense.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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It is possible they refer to the 1st dhyāna and maybe beyond. I've never read the Chāndogyopaniṣad, so I don't know how it is to be read. It is possible they conceived of dhyāna as some kind of union with a god, for all I know.
What is the Uncreated?
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
Sublime & free, what is that obscured Eternity?
It is the Undying, the Bright, the Isle.
It is an Ocean, a Secret: Reality.
Both life and oblivion, it is Nirvāṇa.
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You should. It’s a wonderful text. That and the Brhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad, apart from promotion of wife beating and rape of course
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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I'd suggest to remove all religious components but not to add further.
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Religious components, as you call them, are skilful means. Sentient beings need them, you know.
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If you can make the human mind static, frozen like an exhibit in a museum, then yeah, you stand a chance.
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If your understanding of "sentient beings" is "humans" (what other "beings" would you be able to refer to in the context of religion?) then evidence disproves your general claim.
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Once one has settled down in a home of religious views then the idea of a homeless life might appear fearsome.
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Re: After Buddhism is added with other religious components
Do you mean mixing Buddhism with Christianity or Paganism, for example? I've come across people doing this, but it generally looks like an uncomfortable mix, particularly with a Buddhist focus on anatta/shunyata.
Buddha save me from new-agers!
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The evidence I've observed as part of my Buddhist practice and those of fellow religious practitioners, has supported my claim.
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No. That's why counterfeit dhamma doesn't lead to anything.
The Buddha said the True Dhamma is perfect and complete, if you add or remove from it then you don't have right view.
There is only one battle that could be won, and that is the battle against the 3 poisons. Any other battle is a guaranteed loss because you're going to die either way.