After Buddhism is added with other religious components

[form]

Or even merge in 50/50 proportion, is it still Buddhism?

[Sam Vara]

Or even merge in 50/50 proportion, is it still Buddhism?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Do you mean the fact that Buddhism has acquired devotional and ritual practices that make it more like a "religion" than a "philosophy"? Or do you mean when elements from other religious traditions are simultaneously believed or practised or somehow merged with Buddhism? I'm guessing from the fact that this is in "Other Paths" that you mean the latter?

[form]

Or even merge in 50/50 proportion, is it still Buddhism?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean here. Do you mean the fact that Buddhism has acquired devotional and ritual practices that make it more like a "religion" than a "philosophy"? Or do you mean when elements from other religious traditions are simultaneously believed or practised or somehow merged with Buddhism? I'm guessing from the fact that this is in "Other Paths" that you mean the latter?

I just watched a utube video that talked about shamanism integrating with Buddhism. It resulted in something still called Buddhism, but the video explained many technicalities in the resultant product which I know is definitely not found in the Nikaya. It makes me wonder.

[SarathW]

I think what Buddha said was if you find any teaching which contains Four Noble Truths and Noble Eightfold Path it is considered Buddhism.

[Dan74]

When the Dalai Lama came and spoke at my old uni in Australia, he said it was a regrettable historical fact that Buddhism in Tibet took on so much spirit worship.

I think as the Dhamma reached different lands, it had to adapt to existing conditions. Some actually enriched it, others perhaps nor so much.

True teachers have always found a way to keep the fire going though.

[Ceisiwr]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

[form]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

That is one way.

Isn't Zen lineage originally from India's Bodhidhamma? You mean it is also changed with time?

[Ceisiwr]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

That is one way.

Isn't Zen lineage originally from India's Bodhidhamma? You mean it is also changed with time?

Well Chán did make use of Taoist concepts.

[Coëmgenu]

Dàoism and Buddhism have both immensely mutually influenced each other over time in China. Once Buddhism is in China, Dàoism undergoes several fundamental transformations in response, becoming more like Buddhism. When Buddhism is initially introduced into China, it is seen as an Indian form of Chinese Dàoism.

[form]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

That is one way.

Isn't Zen lineage originally from India's Bodhidhamma? You mean it is also changed with time?

Well Chán did make use of Taoist concepts.

That is weird consider Bodhidhamma is not the first generation in the lineage that originated in India.

[Dan74]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

This topic is controversial. I recall Ven Huifeng and later Meido Roshi both arguing that it was more the other way around - Zen influencing Taoism (like Buddhism influencing Advaita) and that the similarities are superficial and more to do with the use of language than the actually teachings and practices. But may be my recollection isn't right..

[Ceisiwr]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

This topic is controversial. I recall Ven Huifeng and later Meido Roshi both arguing that it was more the other way around - Zen influencing Taoism (like Buddhism influencing Advaita) and that the similarities are superficial and more to do with the use of language than the actually teachings and practices. But may be my recollection isn't right..

Certainly when I read "The Great Way is not difficult" I'm reminded of Taoism.

[Dan74]

You mean like how it mixed with Taoism to give us Zen?

This topic is controversial. I recall Ven Huifeng and later Meido Roshi both arguing that it was more the other way around - Zen influencing Taoism (like Buddhism influencing Advaita) and that the similarities are superficial and more to do with the use of language than the actually teachings and practices. But may be my recollection isn't right..

Certainly when I read "The Great Way is not difficult" I'm reminded of Taoism.

The Gatha of Seng Tsan? Which parts were more like Taoism?

[Ceisiwr]

This topic is controversial. I recall Ven Huifeng and later Meido Roshi both arguing that it was more the other way around - Zen influencing Taoism (like Buddhism influencing Advaita) and that the similarities are superficial and more to do with the use of language than the actually teachings and practices. But may be my recollection isn't right..

Certainly when I read "The Great Way is not difficult" I'm reminded of Taoism.

The Gatha of Seng Tsan? Which parts were more like Taoism?

What I just quoted.

[Dan74]

Certainly when I read "The Great Way is not difficult" I'm reminded of Taoism.

The Gatha of Seng Tsan? Which parts were more like Taoism?

What I just quoted.

You're not being very transparent here. What exactly is like Taoism? Way? Not difficult?? You did read past the first line, right? (and there are other translations that sound quite different).