Advaita seeks Atman, Buddhism seeks anatman, right?

[Coëmgenu]

I don’t need to translate things myself


I merely need to understand

We agree on that.

[cappuccino]

I merely need to understand

We agree on that.

Aneñja-sappaya Sutta


easy to understand, but inconvenient

[cappuccino]

Then again, the disciple of the noble ones, having gone into the wilderness, to the root of a tree, or into an empty dwelling, considers this: 'This is empty of self or of anything pertaining to self.' … This is declared to be the second practice conducive to the dimension of nothingness.

Then again, the disciple of the noble ones considers this: 'I am not anyone's anything anywhere; nor is anything of mine in anyone anywhere.' … This is declared to be the third practice conducive to the dimension of nothingness.


Aneñja-sappaya Sutta

[Coëmgenu]

According to that sutta, the dimension of nothingness (ākiṃcanyāyatana 無所有入處 ākiñcaññāyatana) is followed by the attainment of the dimension of neither perception nor non-perception (naivasaṃjñānāsaṃjñāyatana 非想非非想入處 nevasaññānāsaññāyatana). Naivasaṃjñānāsaṃjñāyatana is called "the supreme sustenance." The sutta says that, if a monk does not relish and cling to the equanimity of the abode, he can attain complete unbinding. If the yogin fails at the stage of the abode of nothingness, he will take birth in the ārūpyadhātu. If he fails to be liberated at the stage of the abode of neither perception nor non-perception, he will also take birth in the ārūpyadhātu.

[cappuccino]

This is empty of self … is the practice conducive to the dimension of nothingness.

[Coëmgenu]

You are still missing the "possibly" of the previously-quoted sutta.

[cappuccino]

You are still missing the "possibly" of the previously-quoted sutta.

I understand the meaning in general


which you are not acknowledging

[Coëmgenu]

I'm not acknowledging it because you are misunderstanding what that sutta means with regards to anātman.

[cappuccino]

I'm not acknowledging it because you are misunderstanding what that sutta means with regards to anātman.

I don’t care

[Ontheway]

As explained by Venerable Gunaratana Thera and Venerable K Sri Dhammananda Mahanayaka Thera, the notion of "Soul" or "Self" concept is not real and not found in reality. The notion of "Soul" don't even exists in reality.



It is merely a misunderstanding by scholars, thinking there is a "Self" preservation; "There is a "Self" elimination; or neither agree nor disagree with "Self" and becomes eel-wriggling.

[Rambutan]

Definitely not what it’s saying

Well if not, then what are you reading in it?

“Dimension of nothingness” is a ridiculous wording. Sounds like some kind of black hole or something.

The Thirty-one Planes of Existence

(30) Nothingness (akiñcaññayatanupaga deva)

The inhabitants of these realms are possessed entirely of mind. Having no physical body …

Please explain the reasoning behind your interpretation.
Why would ‘This is empty of self or of anything pertaining to self.’ , which is a correct view of phenomena, one of non-attachment, lead one to further rebirth in samsara (according to the passage you provided a link to) rather than leading one away from it?

[Rambutan]

The thing to avoid, that would lead one to rebirth in a formless realm, is solidifying non-self, which is essentially referring to that which is not there, as a state of something which is there, an intrinsically arising non-self-ness.
It’s like, there is no Taj Mahal in my living room. But lack of a Taj Mahal isn’t itself a specific characteristic of the room. If I said, “look at how my living room lacks Taj Mahal-ness” that would make no sense.
Likewise, it would be a mistake to say that beings possess some kind of specific quality which is “non-self-ness” even though we can say that beings do not possess a self.

[cappuccino]

Why would ‘This is empty of self or of anything pertaining to self’ … which is a correct view of phenomena … lead one to further rebirth in samsara … ?

because no self is an experience of nothingness


not self is what you want to contemplate

[cappuccino]

As explained by Venerable … the notion of "Soul" … is not real and not found in reality.

Buddha never taught this


merely Buddhists think so

[Coëmgenu]

As explained by Venerable … the notion of "Soul" … is not real and not found in reality.

Buddha never taught this


merely Buddhists think so

Fake news