Thank you, well worth watching, closely studying. Note how it is at feelings that the opportunity to step off the wheel of becoming is presented.
From a footnote in the Venerable Ledi Sayadaw's The Noble Eightfold Path and its Factors Explained : "Note that kamma means action, not the fruit of action as when people say, "it's my kamma". This reduces the teaching of kamma to mere fatalism."
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:56 am
by cappuccino
The slightest of all the results coming from drinking fermented & distilled liquors is that, when one becomes a human being, it leads to mental derangement.
written into life itself
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:30 pm
by Grigoris
sunnat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:27 am
Thank you, well worth watching, closely studying. Note how it is at feelings that the opportunity to step off the wheel of becoming is presented.
From a footnote in the Venerable Ledi Sayadaw's The Noble Eightfold Path and its Factors Explained : "Note that kamma means action, not the fruit of action as when people say, "it's my kamma". This reduces the teaching of kamma to mere fatalism."
Experiencing kamma phala/vipakka is not fatalism.
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:47 pm
by sunnat
Kamma phala and kamma vakka are not kamma. They are the fruit of kamma.
When the conditions are right the fruit manifests. That is the result of kamma.
A reaction to the result is kamma.
No reaction and the kamma fruit passes away without being mutiplied.
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:11 pm
by Grigoris
sunnat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:47 pm
Kamma phala and kamma vakka are not kamma. They are the fruit of kamma.
Yeah, and?
What is your point?
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:28 pm
by sunnat
My apologies. I thought you were making a point.
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:55 pm
by Grigoris
sunnat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:28 pm
My apologies. I thought you were making a point.
Sorry, maybe I did not understand. Were you supporting my point?
Re: Clearing up Misconceptions about Kamma
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:18 pm
by sunnat
Yes. Looks like we both misunderstood in the same way. I was hedging my bets in case i wasn't misunderstanding. Interesting exchange. There is an unnecessary tendency for combativeness that sometimes pervades the forum. I'm not immune. I welcome opportunities to recognise and avoid it.
