Question metta
Question metta
Namaste i have a question is about metta, metta can be translated as being kind, is being kind more meritorius than building a monastery or giving food to the buddha? I ask because there is the velama sutta that says so. Also if you have anger which is the oposite of metta is it superdestructive? Thanks
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Metta is best translated as goodwill, or even friendliness. Lovingkindness is a common translation, although somewhat imprecise and dated. I have never heard of the translation "kind".
Ill-will (anger) is said to be greatly blamed, but is quick to go away, as compared to green which is to be slightly blamed, but slow to go away.
As for merit, it is best to give when and where you feel moved (Buddha's advice).
Ill-will (anger) is said to be greatly blamed, but is quick to go away, as compared to green which is to be slightly blamed, but slow to go away.
As for merit, it is best to give when and where you feel moved (Buddha's advice).
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metta is shining light of good will (in various direction) into the world
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what is green?dharmacorps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:34 pm ...
Ill-will (anger) is said to be greatly blamed, but is quick to go away, as compared to green which is to be slightly blamed, but slow to go away.
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oh you mean greed?
Could you cite the source? Is it Vism. or sutta?
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mario92 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:04 pm Namaste i have a question is about metta, metta can be translated as being kind, is being kind more meritorius than building a monastery or giving food to the buddha? I ask because there is the velama sutta that says so. Also if you have anger which is the oposite of metta is it superdestructive? Thanks
I remember in Suttanta did teach something like this... Metta meditation, if attaining Jhanas, is far more meritorious to Dana or Sila etc. It is conducive for the rebirth in Brahma world with great power, glory, happiness. Meanwhile the other two could lead you to Deva world or human world. In this case, Brahma world is superior to both Deva and human worlds. When the meditator successfully cultivated Metta quality, anger is suppressed greatly and not expressive. But anger still exists as long as the meditator did not attain Sainthood.
Buddha did not say Metta Bhavana or loving kindness meditation was his idea. Metta Bhavana is a known meditation practice among Samanas, and surely now Hindus or many spiritual practitioners do that. But Buddha also did mention that many misguided meditators, although attained Jhanas and reborn to Brahma Worlds, after a long time of heedlessness, still fall to woeful states such as Great Avici Hell etc in subsequent lives to come. There is no guarantee of safety in Samsara by doing Metta Bhavana alone.
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Wrong. Anger is gone in the Non-Returner.Dhammavamsa wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:58 pm But anger still exists as long as the meditator did not attain Sainthood.
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vimutitagga I thinkfrank k wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:55 pmwhat is green?dharmacorps wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:34 pm ...
Ill-will (anger) is said to be greatly blamed, but is quick to go away, as compared to green which is to be slightly blamed, but slow to go away.
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oh you mean greed?
Could you cite the source? Is it Vism. or sutta?
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I've just recently finished reading the Vimuttimagga for the first time. Either I missed that part or it is somewhere else. But what I remember reading about anger, from the beginning when I was just starting to read about Buddhism, is that a single moment of anger can lead to destroying merit which took years to build up.
As for metta, I keep reading that it is enough just to have good intentions toward people. The actual feelings aren't required for success. This is good news for me, because I often find being actually around other people shows me that anger, aversion, and cruelty still come much more readily. The worse they are the more karuna I should have. It is really hard to change my automatic reactions. If I could just never see anyone again I could have perfect metta.
As for metta, I keep reading that it is enough just to have good intentions toward people. The actual feelings aren't required for success. This is good news for me, because I often find being actually around other people shows me that anger, aversion, and cruelty still come much more readily. The worse they are the more karuna I should have. It is really hard to change my automatic reactions. If I could just never see anyone again I could have perfect metta.
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u need to see good will in bad people so u do metta even when living among bad people... the gun man theif coming to store to point gun at store keeper for a piece of bread stealing is suffering from hunger so see good qualities in bad people.Inedible wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:41 pm I've just recently finished reading the Vimuttimagga for the first time. Either I missed that part or it is somewhere else. But what I remember reading about anger, from the beginning when I was just starting to read about Buddhism, is that a single moment of anger can lead to destroying merit which took years to build up.
As for metta, I keep reading that it is enough just to have good intentions toward people. The actual feelings aren't required for success. This is good news for me, because I often find being actually around other people shows me that anger, aversion, and cruelty still come much more readily. The worse they are the more karuna I should have. It is really hard to change my automatic reactions. If I could just never see anyone again I could have perfect metta.
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bad qualities can't be seen as good qualities
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See good qualities in bad people is different from seeing bad qualities as good qualities.
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Knowing how I am supposed to see people isn't the problem. I do know. The problem is that my actual responses to a lot of people I see are much more harmful. I have tried interrupting the patterns by acknowledging that I shouldn't feel that way. It is a step closer to the correct responses. Really, though, metta would be so much easier without all those people ruining it for me.
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I think automatic negative thoughts and reactions are generating bad kamma only if we intentionally decide to think or act in line with them.
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