Hello all,
We are beginning study of the Mulapariyaya Sutta MN 1 tomorrow at Dhammagiri Forest Monestary.
I have Bhikkhu Bodhi's book - The Discourse on The Root of Existence - The Mulapariyaya Sutta and its Commentaries.
and I have found an article by Kingley Heedeniya (3rd report down)
http://www.dailynews.lk/2004/11/03/fea08.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
as well as Thanissaro Bhikkhu's
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
~ and I wondered if anyone has a link to other explanatory articles or texts?
metta
Chris
Mulapariyaya Sutta
Mulapariyaya Sutta
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---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=616
Concept and Reality by Venerable Bhikkhu Nanananda
Concept and Reality by Venerable Bhikkhu Nanananda
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Hello Jones,
This is the link to the book Concept and Reality by Bhikkhu Nanananda
http://www.seeingthroughthenet.net/file ... eality.pdf
With metta,
Chris
This is the link to the book Concept and Reality by Bhikkhu Nanananda
http://www.seeingthroughthenet.net/file ... eality.pdf
With metta,
Chris
---The trouble is that you think you have time---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
---Worry is the Interest, paid in advance, on a debt you may never owe---
---It's not what happens to you in life that is important ~ it's what you do with it ---
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Mpvly5_fQ by Ajahn Brahm
http://vbgnet.org/watch-video.asp?ItemId=28948 Ven. Dhammavuddho
http://vbgnet.org/watch-video.asp?ItemId=28948 Ven. Dhammavuddho
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Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Thanks, I'll definitely be watching that one.pegembara wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Mpvly5_fQ by Ajahn Brahm
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Have a look at the Mulapariyaya resources here:
http://obo.genaud.net/backmatter/indexe ... ources.htm
may be of some help.
This is a fantastic sutta to study deeply. Very valuable too for those interested in picking up some Pali. The 'roots' are the roots of all things, including of the Pali language.
http://obo.genaud.net/backmatter/indexe ... ources.htm
may be of some help.
This is a fantastic sutta to study deeply. Very valuable too for those interested in picking up some Pali. The 'roots' are the roots of all things, including of the Pali language.
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
I once had a conversation with a Western monk in Bangkok. He said that in his view the Mahasatipatthanasutta and the Mulapariyayasutta were the two most important suttas in the Tipitaka. The Mahasatipatthanasutta describes the method, the practice. The Mulapariayasutta describes the result. I tend to agree. Therefore, the best tool for studying the Mulapariyayasutta is to practice satipatthana.
Mettāya,
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Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Hello Kare,
I agree completely. I would add one other angle: take on the single word APPAMAADA as a mantra while you use the Satipatthana to study the Mulapariyaya.
That one word is given more importance in the suttas than any other and carries much more weight than can be supported by any translation. Use it and it's magic powers make themselves known in a very short time.
EDIT: I would add one more, the MahaNIdana Sutta for Paticca Samuppada:
http://obo.genaud.net/backmatter/indexe ... ya.htm#p15
In theory this is understood when the Four Truths are understood, but it helps to have another perspective.
I agree completely. I would add one other angle: take on the single word APPAMAADA as a mantra while you use the Satipatthana to study the Mulapariyaya.
That one word is given more importance in the suttas than any other and carries much more weight than can be supported by any translation. Use it and it's magic powers make themselves known in a very short time.
EDIT: I would add one more, the MahaNIdana Sutta for Paticca Samuppada:
http://obo.genaud.net/backmatter/indexe ... ya.htm#p15
In theory this is understood when the Four Truths are understood, but it helps to have another perspective.
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Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Greetings,
Metta,
Retro.
I think that's fair. This sutta is pivotal to understanding the nature of phenomena.Kare wrote:I once had a conversation with a Western monk in Bangkok. He said that in his view the Mahasatipatthanasutta and the Mulapariyayasutta were the two most important suttas in the Tipitaka. The Mahasatipatthanasutta describes the method, the practice. The Mulapariayasutta describes the result. I tend to agree. Therefore, the best tool for studying the Mulapariyayasutta is to practice satipatthana.
Metta,
Retro.
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Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Translation by Ven Nanamoli together with his notes on M1 was published in Pali Buddhist Review Vol. 5 No 1-2 1980 and it can be downloaded here
http://www.equinoxpub.com/journals/inde ... /view/8736
M 1 is one of few 'ontological' Suttas, where the Buddha deals with being - bhava, Sutta describes ignorance on pre-logical level while M 49 deals with ignorance on logical or reflexive level. According to Ven. Nanamoli these two Suttas are complementary to M 11 and M 38 where is shown how the illusion of 'being' can and should be treated and eliminated.
Sutta evidently deals with practice: "he ought not to conceive".
Interesting point, the end of Sutta: "Those bhikkhus did not delight in the Blessed One's words".
It was explained in various ways. I don't want to argue the point, but as I see it, the reason for such unusual behavior of monks is find a few lines above:
A Tathagata knows that delight is the root of suffering, and that with being there is birth, and the ageing and death. Ven Thanissaro translation:
http://www.equinoxpub.com/journals/inde ... /view/8736
M 1 is one of few 'ontological' Suttas, where the Buddha deals with being - bhava, Sutta describes ignorance on pre-logical level while M 49 deals with ignorance on logical or reflexive level. According to Ven. Nanamoli these two Suttas are complementary to M 11 and M 38 where is shown how the illusion of 'being' can and should be treated and eliminated.
Sutta evidently deals with practice: "he ought not to conceive".
Interesting point, the end of Sutta: "Those bhikkhus did not delight in the Blessed One's words".
It was explained in various ways. I don't want to argue the point, but as I see it, the reason for such unusual behavior of monks is find a few lines above:
A Tathagata knows that delight is the root of suffering, and that with being there is birth, and the ageing and death. Ven Thanissaro translation:
is based on Thai Canon, but in Sinhale there is no word "displeased". So usual end would be incompatible with the main massage which Sutta contains ...That is what the Blessed One said. Displeased, the monks did not delight in the Blessed One's words.
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Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Nicolás Gómez Dávila
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Hello Boris,
The last line:
Idam - avoca Bhagava. Attaµana te bhikkhu Bhagavato bhasitaµ abhinandun - ti.
I have translated it:
This was what the Teacher said, but on that occasion the Beggars gathered round did not understand a word.
The story behind this sutta can be found in Jataka #245:
http://localhost/themozone/bd/dhamma-vi ... us.pts.htm
As the story goes, these bhikkhus who did not understand the Mulapariyaya when first uttered were later convinced by the 'Lion's Roar' made by gotama at the Gotamaka Shrine:
http://localhost/themozone/bd/dhamma-vi ... lds.bd.htm
PS: I cannot get your link above to bring up the journal. The PDF link just brings me to an almost empty page.
The last line:
Idam - avoca Bhagava. Attaµana te bhikkhu Bhagavato bhasitaµ abhinandun - ti.
I have translated it:
This was what the Teacher said, but on that occasion the Beggars gathered round did not understand a word.
The story behind this sutta can be found in Jataka #245:
http://localhost/themozone/bd/dhamma-vi ... us.pts.htm
As the story goes, these bhikkhus who did not understand the Mulapariyaya when first uttered were later convinced by the 'Lion's Roar' made by gotama at the Gotamaka Shrine:
http://localhost/themozone/bd/dhamma-vi ... lds.bd.htm
PS: I cannot get your link above to bring up the journal. The PDF link just brings me to an almost empty page.
Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
It's strange. for me, it works without problem ...obo wrote: PS: I cannot get your link above to bring up the journal. The PDF link just brings me to an almost empty page.
Did you click on that page here?
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Re: Mulapariyaya Sutta
Hello Boris,
I.E.! or my Kaspersky Internet Security. I used Firefox and it worked fine. Took a while to load.
This is slightly different from the version edited by Bhk. Bodhi available (with permission!) here:
http://obo.genaud.net/dhamma-vinaya/wp/ ... tbb.wp.htm
but which has the advantage of being digital.
Plus the notes/commentary is interesting.
I.E.! or my Kaspersky Internet Security. I used Firefox and it worked fine. Took a while to load.
This is slightly different from the version edited by Bhk. Bodhi available (with permission!) here:
http://obo.genaud.net/dhamma-vinaya/wp/ ... tbb.wp.htm
but which has the advantage of being digital.
Plus the notes/commentary is interesting.