Pali sources on the time after the mahāparinibbāna to First Council (including)

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yaron
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Pali sources on the time after the mahāparinibbāna to First Council (including)

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Hi all,

What are the Pali sources on the time from after the mahāparinibbāna up to the First Council (including the First Council)? I use either the Digital Pali Reader or this site: https://www.tipitaka.org/romn/
Is it just in the Vinayapiṭaka? Is there anything about it in Abhidhammapiṭaka as well? Any info on it would helpful.

Thanks for the replies.
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yaron wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:51 am Is it just in the Vinayapiṭaka?
In canonical sources it's only in the Pañcasatikakkhandhaka of the Vinaya Piṭaka's Cūḷavagga.

https://www.tipitaka.org/romn/cscd/vin02m3.mul10.xml
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Dhammanando wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am
yaron wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:51 am Is it just in the Vinayapiṭaka?
In canonical sources it's only in the Pañcasatikakkhandhaka of the Vinaya Piṭaka's Cūḷavagga.

https://www.tipitaka.org/romn/cscd/vin02m3.mul10.xml
English translation:

https://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe20/sbe20119.htm
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For those interested, an English translation is here: https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-kd21/en/horner-brahmali
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I don't have the pali to hand but do have the Commentary in English the Mahaaparinibbaana Sutta, ( Yang-Gyu An) (PTS) . It begins slightly before the Buddha' parinibbana
The Buddha’s Last Days

” ‘That which was taught and made known (pa~n~natta)’: The Dhamma is both taught
and made known. The Vinaya is also both taught and made known. ‘Made known’
means set up, established.
‘That is your teacher, after I am gone’: The Dhamma and the Vinaya are your
teacher after I am gone. While I remained alive, I taught you: ‘This is slight
(lahuka); this is serious (garuka); this is curable (satekiccha); this is
incurable (atekiccha); this is what is to be avoided by the world (loka-vajja);
this is what is to be avoided by specific precept (pa~n~natti-vajja); this
offence (aapatti) is removable in the presence of an individual (puggala) this
offence is removable in the presence of a group (ga.na); this offence is
removable in the presence of the Order (sa”ngha).’ Thus concerning the subject
matter handed down as seven groups of offences (aapatti-kkhandha), I have taught
what is called the Vinaya: the Khandhaka, the Parivaara and the two Vibha”ngas.
All of that, the basket of the Vinaya, will perform the role of Teacher for you
when I attain parinibbaana.

“And during my life, I have taught these: the four foundations of mindfulness
(satipa.t.thaana), the four right efforts (sammapphadhaana), the four roads to
supernormal power (iddhipaada), the five spiritual faculties (indriya), the five
mental powers (bala), the seven factors of enlightenment (bojjha”nga), the noble
eightfold path (magga). In various ways I have analysed these doctrinal matters
and have taught the basket of Suttanta. All of that basket of Suttanta will
peform the role of Teacher for you when I attain parinibbaana.

“And during my life, I have taught these: the five aggregates, twelve sphere
(aayatana), eighteeen elements (dhaatu), four truths (sacca), twenty-two
faculites (indriya), nine causes (hetu), four foods (aahaara), seven contacts
(phassa), seven feelings (vedanaa), seven perceptions (sa~n~naa), seven
intentions (cetanaa), seven thoughts (citta). And here too, a certain number of
things are of the sensual realm (kaamaavacara), a certain number are of the form
realm (ruupaavacara), and a ceertain number are of the formless realm
(aruupaavacara); a certain number are included (pariyaapanna), a certain number
are not included (apariyaapanna); a certain number are mundane (lokika), a
certain number are supramundane (lokuttara).

“I have analysed these things in detail and taught the Abhidhamma-pi.taka,
which is adorned by the Mahaapa.t.thaana with its countless methods and
its twenty-fourfold complete origin (samantapa.t.thaana). All of that,
the basket of the Abhidhamma, will perform the role of the Teacher for you
when I attain parinibbaana.

” Thus all of this has been told and discussed for forty-five years from my
enlightenment to my parinibbaana; three baskets, five Nikaayas, nine
branches (a”nga), eight-four thousand groups of dhamma: these are the
major divisions. Thus these eighty-four thousand groups of dhamma remain.
I alone attain parinibbaana, and now I alone advise and instruct. After I
have attained parinibbaana, these eighty-four thousand groups of dhamma,
will advise and instruct you.

“Thus giving many reasons, the Blessed One advised: ‘It is your Teacher after I
am gone….’ ”
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