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this is for dylanj, forum member who passed away. i think they may be planning a memorial so this is sort of an urgent request.
any help would be appreciated.
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16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

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Not sure what you are asking.

What about the Bodhi tree leave or the footprint of Buddha . Dhamma Wheel etc.
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i wasnt totally sure either, but like you know how the lions represent something in buddhism, is there a symbol for son, brother and love (separate symbols or not).
16. 'In what has the world originated?' — so said the Yakkha Hemavata, — 'with what is the world intimate? by what is the world afflicted, after having grasped at what?' (167)

17. 'In six the world has originated, O Hemavata,' — so said Bhagavat, — 'with six it is intimate, by six the world is afflicted, after having grasped at six.' (168)

- Hemavatasutta


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https://www.ancient-buddhist-texts.net/index.htm
http://thaiforestwisdom.org/canonical-texts/
http://seeingthroughthenet.net/wp-conte ... _Heart.pdf
https://www.dhammatalks.org/index.html
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May not be quite theravada-ish.

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Is it just Mahayana or in the Theravada do you do good things and dedicate the merit for someone else? Like giving money or saving animal lives. Because you can do that for people who have passed on.
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The OP is looking for symbols for the words son, brother and love.
salayatananirodha wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 4:25 am i wasnt totally sure either, but like you know how the lions represent something in buddhism, is there a symbol for son, brother and love (separate symbols or not).
What about the Pali word for each?

Son = putta (use caution, the Spanish word puta means "bitch" and puto even worse than that)

Brother = bhātar

Love = metta
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SDC wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:34 am Son = putta (use caution, ...
It seems like mara has taken so many beautiful and meaningful words and made the illusions of them being phonetically copied in vulgar slang. Some of the most meaningful ancient Sanskrit words have had this happen to them as well. Very sad.
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SDC wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:34 am Son = putta (use caution, the Spanish word puta means "bitch" and puto even worse than that)
:D Good point, especially in the U.S. where Spanish is the de facto second language.
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Mahabrahma wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:00 pm
SDC wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:34 am Son = putta (use caution, ...
It seems like mara has taken so many beautiful and meaningful words and made the illusions of them being phonetically copied in vulgar slang. Some of the most meaningful ancient Sanskrit words have had this happen to them as well. Very sad.
The swastika is another example. A great Indian symbol for good luck and karma has been ruined by the Nazis. I know it was used by the Indians first for thousands of years, but I wouldn't dream of wearing a swastika, especially with my bald head.
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If this is to do with a memorial, floral tribute, etc. then maybe the symbols she is looking for would be better as Thai, Sanskrit, Devanagari, etc. as the Pali would normally be rendered in Roman script like this one.

Perhaps one of our resident experts could help?
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I feel that the most powerful and true offering is the flower, incense, and candlelights (sila, samadhi, pannaa).
Peace and serenity are hallmarks of a Buddhist funeral. An altar is set up to display the deceased’s portrait, along with offerings of candles, incense, flowers, and fruit. An image of the Buddha is placed beside or in front of the altar.
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May be off topic but there is Mahayana:
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This is a decent website. It covers a lot of Traditions and has many Symbols.

http://www.buddhistsymbols.org/eightsymbols.html

This is just one of the pages. There's quite a bit of info there and they seem to be uncompromising despite it all. :buddha1:
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DNS wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:51 pm
Mahabrahma wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:00 pm
SDC wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:34 am Son = putta (use caution, ...
It seems like mara has taken so many beautiful and meaningful words and made the illusions of them being phonetically copied in vulgar slang. Some of the most meaningful ancient Sanskrit words have had this happen to them as well. Very sad.
The swastika is another example. A great Indian symbol for good luck and karma has been ruined by the Nazis. I know it was used by the Indians first for thousands of years, but I wouldn't dream of wearing a swastika, especially with my bald head.
Yeah it's terrible, but at least those demons didn't pick some horrific symbol as they were plauging the world. It was definite blasphemy to use it, but it is actually in fact a Buddhist and Vedic symbol, albeit so hurt now, that it actually may have done some amount of good in some veiled ways (the symbol that is), even though worn by very bad people. It may have even lessened the amount of violence those demons did. For example just imagine if they had statues of the Buddha or even chanted a Buddhist Mantra, even once in their life. For example it's better for criminals to wear crosses than not, because of the power of the cross. Though those demons were some very bad criminals. I think in a few hundred years if Spiritual People dodge and weave in when and how it can and can't be used, the symbol can be healed. I don't recommend using it for sacred rights though outside of large or close-knit Buddhist communities. And sacred symbols should not be misused. And I don't want to offend anyone, I Love you all. :heart:
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DNS wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:51 pm
Mahabrahma wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:00 pm
SDC wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2020 11:34 am Son = putta (use caution, ...
It seems like mara has taken so many beautiful and meaningful words and made the illusions of them being phonetically copied in vulgar slang. Some of the most meaningful ancient Sanskrit words have had this happen to them as well. Very sad.
The swastika is another example. A great Indian symbol for good luck and karma has been ruined by the Nazis. I know it was used by the Indians first for thousands of years, but I wouldn't dream of wearing a swastika, especially with my bald head.
I use this Buddha with a svastika on his chest everyday attached to my watch. YOLO.

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It's Amitābha but anyway, almost everyone mistakes the Kamakura Buddha of Japan for Śākyamuni Buddha, too. :mrgreen:

Btw, there are some Chinese characters behind it. If someone here knows Chinese, let me know what is written here.

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Without resistance in all four directions,
content with whatever you get,
enduring troubles with no dismay,
wander alone
like a rhinoceros.
Sutta Nipāta 1.3 - Khaggavisana Sutta
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But if they hit you with a stick...?"
"...I will think, 'These people are very civilized, in that they don't hit me with a knife.'..."
"But if they hit you with a knife...?"
"...I will think, 'These people are very civilized, in that they don't take my life with a sharp knife.'..."
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