DooDoot wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:17 am
Sam Vara wrote: ↑Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:20 pm
Your suggestion is self-contradictory as expressed there (nothing that is taken to be real can be meaningfully said to not exist) but thanks anyway.
It appears the term "natthatta" is found in one place in the suttas, spoken or invented by Vacchagotta.
You appear to be treating Vacchagotta terminology as though it was spoken by the Buddha.
In fact, it
was spoken by the Buddha. SN 44.10 has the terms
atthattā and
natthattā spoken by both Vacchagotta and the Buddha.
My suggestion is not self-contradictory.
Your expression of it certainly is, for reasons given above.
What is self-contradictory is the idea Vacchagotta was coherent in his use of words.
There's no inherent contradiction in saying that Vacchagotta was coherent in his use of words; it's a simple statement of fact which might be true or false, but which does not violate the Law of Non-contradiction. But, as before, you might be importing some other premise here.