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how would you know if you have wrong view?
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kalyana.mitta wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:54 pm how would you know if you have wrong view?
It is the opposite of Right View.
If you become familiar with Right View, you will have a sense of "wrong."
This link is to a fairly famous essay on the Eightfold Path by Bhikkhu Bodhi (Chapter of Right View).
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... d.html#ch2
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the right view knows right & wrong


the wrong view knows not
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Wrong views can be divided into two categories as I remember.

I remember if one thinks that: there is no significance in giving, offering, sacrificing; there is no Kammavipaka from what is done here, there is no mother, no father, no this world, no next world, no spontaneous birth, there is no recluse or Brahmins have direct knowledge that can proclaim this and next world.

Then it is called mundane wrong view.

But if one don't not know or thinks there is no:
1) Dukkha ariyasacca
2) Dukkhasamudaya ariyasacca
3) Dukkhanirodha ariyasacca
4) Dukkhanirodhagamini patipada ariyasacca

Then it is also a wrong view.

So for myself, I will keep reminding myself both criteria and keep on practice...
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If you are just starting out, and haven't read or understood much dhamma, you probably have wrong view. That's one way to know. The way of the world is wrong view as a default operating system.
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kalyana.mitta wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:54 pm how would you know if you have wrong view?
When one has right view & lives in accord with right view, one knows it by its fruit=for example, upekkha, usually translated as equanimity, a harmonious or balanced state.

If you are searching for it, it is readily found in Buddhist scriptures. The Buddha spoke a lot about it, often by laying it alongside of right view.
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kalyana.mitta wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:54 pm how would you know if you have wrong view?
One way to start would be to see if you have any of the wrong views listed in DN1. Also search for what is classed as wrong view and right view. SuttaCentral is quite helpful: https://suttacentral.net/

DN 1: https://suttacentral.net/dn1/en/bodhi
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Vipallāsa Sutta (AN 4.49) wrote: Perceiving constancy in the inconstant,
pleasure in the stressful,
self in what’s not-self,
attractiveness in the unattractive,
beings, destroyed by wrong-view, go mad, out of their minds.
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Dhammavamsa wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:23 pm no next world
the Pali is "para loka", which means "other world"...
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DooDoot wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 8:38 pm
Dhammavamsa wrote: Mon May 24, 2021 5:23 pm no next world
the Pali is "para loka", which means "other world"...
Ya, you are correct. I must learn more correct translation term in future.
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Right View is not about Righ Knowledge or Right Information/Conceptualisation.

Right View is about Right Perspective on khandhas, is about how we see things, is wisdom quality.

If we see khandhas as me, mine, myself - we have à wrong View.

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I suppose that "wrong view" is the contrary of "right view".
https://justpaste.it/48ny7

Any personal definition other than that, would be quite dubious.
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