Why only lion not tiger
Why only lion not tiger
In the suttas the metaphors of Lion's Roar that Buddha refer to himself, representing himself as the lion when acclaim his attaintment and enlightenment and to describe his proclamation of the Dhamma , why not chose other wild beast such as tiger ?
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Re: Why only lion not tiger
because in Indian culture lion means leader or highest
I may be slow learner but im at least learning...
Re: Why only lion not tiger
confusedlayman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:00 pmbecause in Indian culture lion means leader or highest
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
Re: Why only lion not tiger
A quick google search gives an estimate of tigers being present in India from between 12,000 to 16,500 years.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
Re: Why only lion not tiger
Lions are pack animals. Tigers are solitary. A lion's roar is to announce his presence and authority to everyone around which designates his distinction above others, so that they may follow him and learn from him. When a monk is solitary, he doesn't need to roar.
Re: Why only lion not tiger
Just thought I'd share this quote...
"He, the Blessed One, is indeed the Noble Lord, the Perfectly Enlightened One;
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "
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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
He is impeccable in conduct and understanding, the Serene One, the Knower of the Worlds;
He trains perfectly those who wish to be trained; he is Teacher of gods and men; he is Awake and Holy. "
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"The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One,
Apparent here and now, timeless, encouraging investigation,
Leading to liberation, to be experienced individually by the wise. "
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Re: Why only lion not tiger
Come back, O Tigers!, to the woods again,
and let it not be leveled with the plain.
For without you, the axe will lay it low.
You, without it, forever homeless go.
—Khuddaka Patha
https://inquiringmind.com/article/1202_ ... _fronsdal/
This is quoted from the Khuddakapatha, but I have not seen this in any translation I have found so far. Perhaps misattributed and is in a different Pali Canon text?
Since tigers are solitary, I could see how that could be revered.
They appear to be venerated more so in the Mahayana than Theravada.
http://tibetanbuddhistencyclopedia.com/ ... /The_Tiger
and let it not be leveled with the plain.
For without you, the axe will lay it low.
You, without it, forever homeless go.
—Khuddaka Patha
https://inquiringmind.com/article/1202_ ... _fronsdal/
This is quoted from the Khuddakapatha, but I have not seen this in any translation I have found so far. Perhaps misattributed and is in a different Pali Canon text?
Since tigers are solitary, I could see how that could be revered.
They appear to be venerated more so in the Mahayana than Theravada.
http://tibetanbuddhistencyclopedia.com/ ... /The_Tiger
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Re: Why only lion not tiger
Suvaṇṇasāmacariya
“When in a wood I was Sāma the black,
. . . . . . . --- “Sāmo yadā vane āsiṁ,
created by Sakka.
. . . . . . . --- sakkena abhinimmito;
I led the lions and tigers
. . . . . . . --- Pavane sīhabyagghe ca,
in the forest by love.
. . . . . . . --- mettāya mupanāmayiṁ.
Surrounded by lions and tigers,
. . . . . . . --- Sīhabyagghehi dīpīhi,
leopards, bears, buffaloes,
. . . . . . . --- acchehi mahisehi ca;
spotted deer, and wild boar,
. . . . . . . --- Pasadamigavarāhehi,
I stayed in the forest.
. . . . . . . --- parivāretvā vane vasiṁ.
...
...
https://suttacentral.net/cp33/en/sujato ... ript=latin
“When in a wood I was Sāma the black,
. . . . . . . --- “Sāmo yadā vane āsiṁ,
created by Sakka.
. . . . . . . --- sakkena abhinimmito;
I led the lions and tigers
. . . . . . . --- Pavane sīhabyagghe ca,
in the forest by love.
. . . . . . . --- mettāya mupanāmayiṁ.
Surrounded by lions and tigers,
. . . . . . . --- Sīhabyagghehi dīpīhi,
leopards, bears, buffaloes,
. . . . . . . --- acchehi mahisehi ca;
spotted deer, and wild boar,
. . . . . . . --- Pasadamigavarāhehi,
I stayed in the forest.
. . . . . . . --- parivāretvā vane vasiṁ.
...
...
https://suttacentral.net/cp33/en/sujato ... ript=latin
𝓑𝓾𝓭𝓭𝓱𝓪 𝓗𝓪𝓭 𝓤𝓷𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓲𝓿𝓸𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓓𝓮𝓬𝓵𝓪𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽
𝓐𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓽ā 𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 𝓘𝓼
- Iᴅᴇᴀ ᴏꜰ Sᴏᴜʟ ɪs Oᴜᴛᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴀɴ Uᴛᴛᴇʀʟʏ Fᴏᴏʟɪsʜ Vɪᴇᴡ
V. Nanananda
𝓐𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓽ā 𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 𝓘𝓼
- Nᴏ sᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀs ᴀ Sᴇʟғ, Sᴏᴜʟ, Eɢᴏ, Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ, ᴏʀ Āᴛᴍᴀɴ
V. Buddhādasa
Re: Why only lion not tiger
What is the best roar? The lion or the tiger?
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Re: Why only lion not tiger
Lion's roar = words that cannot
be refuted (roars of the Arahat)
Tiger's roar = can be countered by a
lion's roar THEN IT'S NOT SUITABLE.
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Theraṽādå&Ṽibhajjaṽādå, the rest are
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Theraṽādå&Ṽibhajjaṽādå, the rest are
nonsakaṽādins!"