Did Buddha walked 7 steps immediately after birth

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Did Buddha walked 7 steps immediately after birth

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I have a friend asking this , yet i didnt know if sutta has record of it . Anyone can help ?
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Re: Did Buddha walked 7 steps immediately after birth

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From MN 123:
“…‘As soon as the bodhisatta was born, he stood steadily with his feet on the ground and, facing north, took seven steps while a white parasol was held over him. Surveying all the directions, he made a bellowing statement: “I am the foremost of the world. I am chief of the world. I am the best of the world.”’ …
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN123.html
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DNS wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 am From MN 123:
“…‘As soon as the bodhisatta was born, he stood steadily with his feet on the ground and, facing north, took seven steps while a white parasol was held over him. Surveying all the directions, he made a bellowing statement: “I am the foremost of the world. I am chief of the world. I am the best of the world.”’ …
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN123.html
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Re: Did Buddha walked 7 steps immediately after birth

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compare to MN 64:
For a young tender infant lying prone does not even have the notion ‘identity,’

https://suttacentral.net/mn64/en/bodhi
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DNS wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:09 am From MN 123:
“…‘As soon as the bodhisatta was born, he stood steadily with his feet on the ground and, facing north, took seven steps while a white parasol was held over him. Surveying all the directions, he made a bellowing statement: “I am the foremost of the world. I am chief of the world. I am the best of the world.”’ …
https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/MN/MN123.html


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  • Nᴏ sᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀs ᴀ Sᴇʟғ, Sᴏᴜʟ, Eɢᴏ, Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ, ᴏʀ Āᴛᴍᴀɴ
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:25 am compare to MN 64:
For a young tender infant lying prone does not even have the notion ‘identity,’

https://suttacentral.net/mn64/en/bodhi
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:25 am compare to MN 64:
For a young tender infant lying prone does not even have the notion ‘identity,’

https://suttacentral.net/mn64/en/bodhi
What do you wish me to compare ?
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asahi wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:59 am What do you wish me to compare ?
MN 123 - “I am the foremost of the world. I am chief of the world. I am the best of the world.”

compared to

MN 64 - young tender infant... does not even have the notion ‘identity'
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.

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DooDoot wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:16 am
asahi wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:59 am What do you wish me to compare ?
MN 123 - “I am the foremost of the world. I am chief of the world. I am the best of the world.”

compared to

MN 64 - young tender infant... does not even have the notion ‘identity'
I can see the difference . Probably He knew this intuitively and that this is His last life , since He already equipped with certain qualities enable him to perform some unordinary activity . Unless you denies He did practice dhamma in many of His previous life ? If He didnt practice dhamma in previous life , then He is a damned lucky guy whom hit the jackpot !


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asahi wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:39 am damned lucky guy whom hit the jackpot !
MN 123 is referring to a new born child emerging from his mamma's vagina
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:03 am
asahi wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:39 am damned lucky guy whom hit the jackpot !
MN 123 is referring to a new born child emerging from his mamma's vagina
So ? What's your point ? Do explain .



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𝓑𝓾𝓭𝓭𝓱𝓪 𝓗𝓪𝓭 𝓤𝓷𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓲𝓿𝓸𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓓𝓮𝓬𝓵𝓪𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽
  • Iᴅᴇᴀ ᴏꜰ Sᴏᴜʟ ɪs Oᴜᴛᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴀɴ Uᴛᴛᴇʀʟʏ Fᴏᴏʟɪsʜ Vɪᴇᴡ
    V. Nanananda

𝓐𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓽ā 𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 𝓘𝓼
  • Nᴏ sᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀs ᴀ Sᴇʟғ, Sᴏᴜʟ, Eɢᴏ, Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ, ᴏʀ Āᴛᴍᴀɴ
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:25 am compare to MN 64:
For a young tender infant lying prone does not even have the notion ‘identity,’

https://suttacentral.net/mn64/en/bodhi


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What about a young tender Bodhisatta?
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I compared MN 123 and MN 64. Both are good, no need to choose one over the other and cherry pick the Suttas.

MN 123 is about the extremely rare being known as a Samma-Sam-Buddha. A Samma-Sam-Buddha comes around only approximately once every 5,000 to 100,000 years. MN 64 is about an ordinary infant.

The term "I" is a conventional label we use in everyday conversation. It does not necessarily mean that anyone who uses the term "I" believes in a permanent self, atta / atman.
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