Thanks for your time!DooDoot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:00 pm It appears anatta is not related to these mundane teachings. MN 117 says there are two distinct types of dhamma but you appear to be mixing them up.
What lives? Where do the suttas refer to tendencies (anusaya) transmitted from past to future "lives"? Thanks
Stream of consciousness is not found in the suttas (apart from one irrelevant place). Also, consciousness is defined in the suttas as cognition (MN 43). In other words, it is unlikely consciousness (sense awareness) can carry "seeds". In fact, the suttas say: "consciousness is the seed (viññāṇaṃ bījaṃ)" rather than the carrier of the seed.
To answer these three points:
1) While one could say, based on that sutta, there is RV with and without effluents, I think that both share some common ground: there are conditions, causes and effects. I think that's all that's important for the idea I presented.
2) Upadana is a condition for bhava. What I proposed (which is not an idea made by me) is that that process apply both for "one life" and for "two consecutive lives". Applied to one life, when there is upadana (which I suppose can be understood as kamma not ceased), the idea of self keeps arising and persisting; applied to two lives, upadana sets the basis for how a new life will begin, based on the mechanisms before mentioned in my last post. There's no need to talk about anusaya if that world is unfitting.
3) What I meant to say is that, if one read 'rebirth' through this lens, there's no need to posit a "stream of consciousness", nor "kamma seeds"; interaction, kamma and the effects of interaction is all what could be requiered to understand how the effects of one life affects and gives a base for a new life.