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This will be of interest:
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With metta,
Chris
Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Thanks Chris
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
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- Cormac McCarthy, The Road
Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Thanks for sharing
Thag 1.20. Ajita - I do not fear death; nor do I long for life. I’ll lay down this body, aware and mindful.
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Interesting stuff. Also, a couple of extra clicks and I found this (probably old news, but new to me).
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Almost six year on now.
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
The resistance over bhikkhuni ordination is interesting and far from over. Accepting impermanence is a core concept of Buddhism, yet the most Theravada countries in the world have cultures the most resistant to change.
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
I have great respect for Ajahn Brahm. Sadhu.
Vayadhammā saṅkhārā appamādena sampādethā — All things decay and disappoint, it is through vigilance that you succeed — Mahāparinibbāna Sutta
Self-taught poverty is a help toward philosophy, for the things which philosophy attempts to teach by reasoning, poverty forces us to practice. — Diogenes of Sinope
I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind — Ecclesiastes 1.14
Self-taught poverty is a help toward philosophy, for the things which philosophy attempts to teach by reasoning, poverty forces us to practice. — Diogenes of Sinope
I have seen all things that are done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a chase after wind — Ecclesiastes 1.14
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
It seems, this was a major road block to attain Arahantship.
I hope now we all can speed up the path without adding another division.
This whole thing is disturbing me.
I watched a video, that Ajahn Brahm said that he is not a Thervadist or Mhayanist!
What is Schism?
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 9831&hilit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I hope now we all can speed up the path without adding another division.
This whole thing is disturbing me.
I watched a video, that Ajahn Brahm said that he is not a Thervadist or Mhayanist!
What is Schism?
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... 9831&hilit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Neither was the Buddha.SarathW wrote: I watched a video, that Ajahn Brahm said that he is not a Thervadist or Mhayanist!
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
I agree with your point.David N. Snyder wrote:Neither was the Buddha.SarathW wrote: I watched a video, that Ajahn Brahm said that he is not a Thervadist or Mhayanist!
However it depend on whether the statement was made with the knowledge or without the knowledge.
Some times the undertone of not belong to a group means he/she got her own group. (i.e. another division)
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
The Buddha set up the four-fold assemblies of bhikkhus, bhikkhunis, upasakas, upasikas; so it is a matter of interpretation or opinion which side (in this issue) is being schismatic: those wanting a 3 fold assembly or those wanting a 4 fold assembly.
I believe it is neither and just a difference in Vinaya interpretation and opinions.
I believe it is neither and just a difference in Vinaya interpretation and opinions.
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I don't see how getting kicked out of the Ajahn Chah club, or having one's monastery deregistered from being an official Ajahn Chah wat, would be an obstacle to arahantship. In the Buddha's teaching there is no mandate for the sangha to establish such clubs in the first place.SarathW wrote:It seems, this was a major road block to attain Arahantship.
You haven't given the full link.SarathW wrote: What is Schism?
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Yena yena hi maññanti,
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
In the Buddha's teaching is there a mandate for the "Theravada"? Could "Theravada" be considered a club?Dhammanando wrote:
In the Buddha's teaching there is no mandate for the sangha to establish such clubs in the first place.
Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
The word is just a convention to identify a school of thought with relatively homogenous beliefs and practices.Mr Man wrote:Could "Theravada" be considered a club?
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Re: Ajahn Brahm on why he was excommunicated
Yes, inasmuch as the separatedness of the Theravada is basically rooted in the Vinaya's prescriptions for handling disputes and for ostracizing any bhikkhu or groups of bhikkhus which are incorrigible in view or recalcitrant in conduct.Mr Man wrote:In the Buddha's teaching is there a mandate for the "Theravada"?
Yena yena hi maññanti,
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)
tato taṃ hoti aññathā.
In whatever way they conceive it,
It turns out otherwise.
(Sn. 588)