OK, but this thread sounds very theoretical. Have you visited Mahamevnawa? By the way, it would be helpful if you used the conventional spelling for this monastery, and for Pali terms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahamevna ... _Monastery
Mike
OK, but this thread sounds very theoretical. Have you visited Mahamevnawa? By the way, it would be helpful if you used the conventional spelling for this monastery, and for Pali terms.
Actually what I mean here was, if you want to ordain under a particular monk, you will have problems if your teacher rejects Abhidhamma.
And if you're not it will be just dandy. I still don't see any evidence for the OP's subject headline.
Please stop spreading unfounded rumors.
Seriously? Do you think they don't know Pali chanting? They have done more chanting of the Pali suttas than probably any other monastery in Sri Lanka. Whole books at a time. They do the Sinhala chanting for the benefit of the lay people.SarathW wrote: They chant in Sinhalese. In my opinion, this is OK with laypeople, but monks should learn Pali.
Thank you. It appears you have some experience with this place. It is great to receive input from a person with the first-hand experience. By the way, do you agree that their community standards exclude Abhidhamma and certain parts of the Sutta?BKh wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 7:10 amPlease stop spreading unfounded rumors.
Any group of monks will have community standards that they follow.
Seriously? Do you think they don't know Pali chanting? They have done more chanting of the Pali suttas than probably any other monastery in Sri Lanka. Whole books at a time. They do the Sinhala chanting for the benefit of the laypeople.SarathW wrote: They chant in Sinhalese. In my opinion, this is OK with laypeople, but monks should learn Pali.
Buddha never encourages us to take "heaven" as our final goal in practicing Dhamma. It is always "Nibbana" as its goal.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:00 am Comprehensive analysis of how Ven Kiribathgoda Nanananda discouraged his follower to study Abhidhamma.
Some of the contents.
- Abhidhamma was taught to Deva's so it is not suitable for human
- He claims Buddha did not teach the Abhidhamma to any human.
- Human (his old followers) can't understand Abhidhamma
- Enlightenment factors are not in Abhidhamma
- He challenges his followers to prove him wrong
- He warns his followers that they will get disoriented if they study Abhidhamma.
- Finally, he asks his followers to go to the Deva world where they can learn Abhidhamma. He encourages his followers to practice virtues, concentration and giving so as to go to Deva's world as his followers are not intelligent enough.
That is one of his main criticisms.Again his points here above indicated that he followers still possess much greed towards "Heaven", if that's what he preached...
https://puredhamma.net/living-dhamma/tr ... a-dhammam/“yaṃ kiñci samudaya dhammaṃ sabbaṃ taṃ nirōdha dhammam“ is in the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta (SN 56.11); see, “Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta.”
Translated: “If there are dhammā that give rise to suffering (i.e., any samudaya dhammā), all such dhammā can be stopped from arising (via the Noble Eightfold Path).”
“yaṃ kiñci samudaya dhammaṃ” means “any dhammā that eventually lead to suffering. And, “sabbaṃ taṃ nirōdha dhammam” means “all such dhammā” are nirōdha dhammā, i.e., they can be stopped from arising.
There was a video saying this in a previous post but it has been taken down for some reason.Tangent-Man wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:06 am Kiribathgoda Gnanananda Thera visited my local Mahamevnawa branch and I asked him about why he was encouraging people to strive for a heavenly rebirth and he strictly denied holding this view. He wanted to know which of his Swaminwahansae had been teaching this. It is difficuilt to comment further as my Sinhala is practicaly non existent. Katta kerana Sinhala aarmarui.
I have also heard that Bhikkhu Bodhi recomends Mahamevenawa to ordain.