Keep away from Mahamuna sect in Sri Lanka?

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Srilankaputra wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:42 am @SarathW

Before you get all the Abhidhamma/Commentary nescients on your head, please listen to the first video in the following playlist(Which is an audiobook of Ven Gnanananda Thero's translation of the Dhammapada). You can listen for your self the Venerables introduction to this book and his views on atleast the commentaries.

Thanks Have you read this?

https://www.tipitaka.net/tipitaka/dhp/
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Sam Vara wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:12 am Moderator note.

There seem to be two topics in this thread.

The first is about Mahamevnawa and Ven. Kiribathgoda Gnanananda, and is, as has been noted, apparently based on gossip or aversion.

The other is a more general discussion about the place and validity of the Abhidhamma.

If people want to focus on the second, Abhidhamma topic, it can be split and hopefully stay relevant. But it seems to be veering into the first topic again, which is entirely unsubstantiated allegation and gossip against a movement and a particular monk. Please could people desist from this? We can then think about separating out the useful posts.
I have posted a translation from his website that he is saying, that people can't attain any Ariya state in this life and ask people to do the rites and ceremonies and go to Brahma worlds.
How do you say they are gossip or aversion when I provided a source?
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SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:51 am
Srilankaputra wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:42 am @SarathW

Before you get all the Abhidhamma/Commentary nescients on your head, please listen to the first video in the following playlist(Which is an audiobook of Ven Gnanananda Thero's translation of the Dhammapada). You can listen for your self the Venerables introduction to this book and his views on atleast the commentaries.

Thanks Have you read this?

https://www.tipitaka.net/tipitaka/dhp/
How do you know that I am ignorant of Abhidhamma?
Have you read Abhidhamma yourself?
If yes which book?
Did you understand all the teaching in Abhidhamma?
Do you want to listen to a third party or you want to find out reading it your self?
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SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:59 am Have you read Abhidhamma yourself?
If yes which book?
Did you understand all the teaching in Abhidhamma?
It's an ongoing study. Right now I am interested in the Patthana. I am studying it with the help of Rerukane Chandawimala Maha Thero's Patthana Maha pakarana Sannaya. And of course there are talks on YouTube, both by lay and monastic teachers.

From what I have studied I have found it extremely useful in sharpening my understanding.
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SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:59 am How do you know that I am ignorant of Abhidhamma?
I think you have misunderstood my comment.

:anjali:

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Srilankaputra wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:20 am
SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:59 am Have you read Abhidhamma yourself?
If yes which book?
Did you understand all the teaching in Abhidhamma?
It's an ongoing study. Right now I am interested in the Patthana. I am studying it with the help of Rerukane Chandawimala Maha Thero's Patthan Maha pakarana Sannaya. And of course there are talks on YouTube, both by lay and monastic teachers.

From what I have studied I have found it extremely useful in sharpening my understanding.
:twothumbsup:
I am reading that book right now. :D
I am into reading about Rupa now.
It is pitty we do not have an English translation of that.
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SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:23 am
Srilankaputra wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 7:20 am
SarathW wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 6:59 am Have you read Abhidhamma yourself?
If yes which book?
Did you understand all the teaching in Abhidhamma?
It's an ongoing study. Right now I am interested in the Patthana. I am studying it with the help of Rerukane Chandawimala Maha Thero's Patthan Maha pakarana Sannaya. And of course there are talks on YouTube, both by lay and monastic teachers.

From what I have studied I have found it extremely useful in sharpening my understanding.
:twothumbsup:
I am reading that book right now. :D
I am into reading about Rupa now.
It is pitty we do not have an English translation of that.
:anjali: :anjali: :anjali:

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Video with English subtitle on beautiful Mahameuna temple in Sri Lanka.
The only thing I did not like was that monks are chanting in Sinhalese and the fish tank.

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I'm totally confused about what I this thread is meant to be about. Are we meant to run for the hills or is this just idle tittle tattle?
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Greetings,
BrokenBones wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:51 pm Are we meant to run for the hills or is this just idle tittle tattle?
Apparently there's a fish tank!

:redherring: :jawdrop:

Sarath - If you'd like us to close off this idle tittle tattle at any point, please let a moderator know.

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Metta,
Paul. :)
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BrokenBones wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:51 pm I'm totally confused about what I this thread is meant to be about. Are we meant to run for the hills or is this just idle tittle tattle?
I have seen many posts in this forum inquiring about the Mahmeuna temple. Hope this thread will help them.
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retrofuturist wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:53 pm Greetings,
BrokenBones wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:51 pm Are we meant to run for the hills or is this just idle tittle tattle?
Apparently there's a fish tank!

:redherring: :jawdrop:

Sarath - If you'd like us to close off this idle tittle tattle at any point, please let a moderator know.

:thanks:

Metta,
Paul. :)
What is wrong with mentioning the fish tank?
I have never seen fish tanks in any Sri Lankan temple.
Keeping pets is not allowed for monks in my opinion.
This is not tittle-tattle for me.
This is a very important issue as far as I am concern.
Please if others think this thread is tittle-tattle please express your concerns.
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Greetings Sarath,
SarathW wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:00 pm This is a very important issue as far as I am concern.
Conversely, the bigger issue as it appears to me is that Sri Lankan Buddhism is so parochial and nationalistic, that it sets out to demonize anyone who would dare to deviate from the rigid orthodoxy of Sri Lankan Buddhism, even when that means having a closer focus on the historical Buddha's teachings. Monks like venerables Nanavira and Nanananda who did so were slammed as heretics, despite having vastly more insight, knowledge and intelligence than their bitter detractors.

The Dhammically uninspiring Sri Lankan Buddhist establishment do however seem quite adept at whipping up the laypeople and weaponizing them divisively against non-conforming monks... hell, they've even got you quibbling about a fish tank, of all things. If only they put their own efforts towards liberation, rather than politics.

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retrofuturist wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:53 pm Greetings,
BrokenBones wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:51 pm Are we meant to run for the hills or is this just idle tittle tattle?
Apparently there's a fish tank!

:redherring: :jawdrop:

Sarath - If you'd like us to close off this idle tittle tattle at any point, please let a moderator know.

:thanks:

Metta,
Paul. :)
Can't quite determine the level of offence...



Or is it a parajika offence?
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I think that is the great thing about Sri Lankan Buddhism.
It is a melting pot.
There are many opinions, like this forum.
People can make up their own minds.
This is my opinion and people can accept or reject it.
What bad is the freedom of speech and intolerance for others opinion.
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