Hi,
I have been taking clozapine and apsychotic injection which treats schizophrenia for a very long time. I feel like stop taking it because I believe all medicines will have side effects, maybe to my kidneys, to my brain, to my liver, wouldn't it effect them?
First time I had schizophrenia was 2009, then I had it again in 2015, and again in 2017.
But I'm ok now, but I feel like stopping medication. I have ask my doctor several times but he would always say "continue it" everytime.
Can anyone please advice me if I can stop it? Should I stop it?
Thanks.
I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Hello JC. I imagine you should find a new doctor or organization that specializes in or is comfortable with the idea of assisting a reduction and withdrawal from medication. Obviously such as doctor or organization would have a very holistic approach.
Kind regards and best wishes
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
I'm not a doctor.
BUT I've had buddies who've stopped their clozapine and they've ALL relapsed and had to be hospitalized.
The only time they have problems with their mental health is when they stop taking their meds.
Do what your doctor says, that's what I say.
BUT I've had buddies who've stopped their clozapine and they've ALL relapsed and had to be hospitalized.
The only time they have problems with their mental health is when they stop taking their meds.
Do what your doctor says, that's what I say.
Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Please, take the medications. The last break was not long ago. You need a stable remission, that would last a significant period of time (perhaps, 10 years or so), and that would be confirmed by your doctor. The new medications for that disease are very safe.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Please talk to an expert professional.
This site is not a good place for this advice.
This site is not a good place for this advice.
Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Take care of mindfulness and mindfulness will take care of you.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Schizophrenia has no cure. So if you’ve had outbursts of it periodically throughout the years - that’s just an indication that your meds need adjusting.JC938 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:31 pm Hi,
I have been taking clozapine and apsychotic injection which treats schizophrenia for a very long time. I feel like stop taking it because I believe all medicines will have side effects, maybe to my kidneys, to my brain, to my liver, wouldn't it effect them?
First time I had schizophrenia was 2009, then I had it again in 2015, and again in 2017.
But I'm ok now, but I feel like stopping medication. I have ask my doctor several times but he would always say "continue it" everytime.
Can anyone please advice me if I can stop it? Should I stop it?
Thanks.
I was on clozapine but my white blood cell count fell to dangerous levels and the medicine is known to cause granular cytosis - which will kill you.
The delayed release injections are another crappy way to interfere with your life and have you come into the blood work place to get a weekly shot in the butt. I don’t buy the science of it anyway.
When doctors in my case gave up on finding the right meds for me they offered me the chance to make my own prescription - which I did.
300 mg of quetiapine at night
50 mg of the same in the morning
50 at noon
50 at dinner time.
1 mg of clonazepam morning, noon, and night.
13 years on this regiment and my only relapse came when I thought I was doing so well, I stopped taking my meds and decomensated.
Therefore - do NOT stop your meds. You HAVE schizophrenia and you WILL decomensate and wind up in a psych. Ward where they will specifically try to give you long release injections because (in particular) you are not compliant with taking meds. It’s the psychiatric community’s little way of penalizing you and making you less human.
However - DO discuss medication alternatives. AFAIK - there have even been some recent breakthroughs with schizophrenia meds.
Most antipsychotics target dopamine receptors. However there are new drugs coming to market that also target serotonin receptors.
Ask your doctor. Make an informed decision. But stay on your meds.
That’s my advice.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Follow your doctors advice or, if you are unhappy, seek a second opinion from another doctor. Never get medical advice from forums.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
Good advice. Just curious, are there support groups for people suffering from schizophrenia?Pondera wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:37 amSchizophrenia has no cure. So if you’ve had outbursts of it periodically throughout the years - that’s just an indication that your meds need adjusting.JC938 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:31 pm Hi,
I have been taking clozapine and apsychotic injection which treats schizophrenia for a very long time. I feel like stop taking it because I believe all medicines will have side effects, maybe to my kidneys, to my brain, to my liver, wouldn't it effect them?
First time I had schizophrenia was 2009, then I had it again in 2015, and again in 2017.
But I'm ok now, but I feel like stopping medication. I have ask my doctor several times but he would always say "continue it" everytime.
Can anyone please advice me if I can stop it? Should I stop it?
Thanks.
I was on clozapine but my white blood cell count fell to dangerous levels and the medicine is known to cause granular cytosis - which will kill you.
The delayed release injections are another crappy way to interfere with your life and have you come into the blood work place to get a weekly shot in the butt. I don’t buy the science of it anyway.
When doctors in my case gave up on finding the right meds for me they offered me the chance to make my own prescription - which I did.
300 mg of quetiapine at night
50 mg of the same in the morning
50 at noon
50 at dinner time.
1 mg of clonazepam morning, noon, and night.
13 years on this regiment and my only relapse came when I thought I was doing so well, I stopped taking my meds and decomensated.
Therefore - do NOT stop your meds. You HAVE schizophrenia and you WILL decomensate and wind up in a psych. Ward where they will specifically try to give you long release injections because (in particular) you are not compliant with taking meds. It’s the psychiatric community’s little way of penalizing you and making you less human.
However - DO discuss medication alternatives. AFAIK - there have even been some recent breakthroughs with schizophrenia meds.
Most antipsychotics target dopamine receptors. However there are new drugs coming to market that also target serotonin receptors.
Ask your doctor. Make an informed decision. But stay on your meds.
That’s my advice.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
There definitely are. Early on in my illness i attended a well managed group for 20 somethings with schizophrenia. It’s weird, but no two people have the same type of schizophrenia. So, whereas you can’t necessarily relate to the people in the group in terms of symptoms - you can meet interesting people and form friendships.Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:36 pmGood advice. Just curious, are there support groups for people suffering from schizophrenia?Pondera wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:37 amSchizophrenia has no cure. So if you’ve had outbursts of it periodically throughout the years - that’s just an indication that your meds need adjusting.JC938 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:31 pm Hi,
I have been taking clozapine and apsychotic injection which treats schizophrenia for a very long time. I feel like stop taking it because I believe all medicines will have side effects, maybe to my kidneys, to my brain, to my liver, wouldn't it effect them?
First time I had schizophrenia was 2009, then I had it again in 2015, and again in 2017.
But I'm ok now, but I feel like stopping medication. I have ask my doctor several times but he would always say "continue it" everytime.
Can anyone please advice me if I can stop it? Should I stop it?
Thanks.
I was on clozapine but my white blood cell count fell to dangerous levels and the medicine is known to cause granular cytosis - which will kill you.
The delayed release injections are another crappy way to interfere with your life and have you come into the blood work place to get a weekly shot in the butt. I don’t buy the science of it anyway.
When doctors in my case gave up on finding the right meds for me they offered me the chance to make my own prescription - which I did.
300 mg of quetiapine at night
50 mg of the same in the morning
50 at noon
50 at dinner time.
1 mg of clonazepam morning, noon, and night.
13 years on this regiment and my only relapse came when I thought I was doing so well, I stopped taking my meds and decomensated.
Therefore - do NOT stop your meds. You HAVE schizophrenia and you WILL decomensate and wind up in a psych. Ward where they will specifically try to give you long release injections because (in particular) you are not compliant with taking meds. It’s the psychiatric community’s little way of penalizing you and making you less human.
However - DO discuss medication alternatives. AFAIK - there have even been some recent breakthroughs with schizophrenia meds.
Most antipsychotics target dopamine receptors. However there are new drugs coming to market that also target serotonin receptors.
Ask your doctor. Make an informed decision. But stay on your meds.
That’s my advice.
Some people have a good recovery and some don’t. At this stage in my life my recovery has allowed me to work full time, manage a stable relationship, pay a mortgage ... etc.
I’m simply to busy to attend support groups at this stage in my life. I did benefit from it as a 20 something however.
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Re: I want to stop taking clozapine and the injection for (Schizophrenia)
"Your doctor" is not the same as "expert professional". There are different doctors & different expert professionals. A person with doubts about their treatment options should search for & consult a different doctor.dharmacorps wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:02 pmExactly.
Listen to your doctor. If you have schizophrenia you can't trust your mind too much.
Excellent posts.
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