Coronavirus (Wellness, Diet & Fitness)

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Buddhism teaches us to calmly work on resolving our problems and face them. Not to pretend they are not there. Unfortunately the common human tendency is to indulge in wishful thinking. This is especially true of governments and not just India's (see the US or Brazil, also in the top three, or, indeed, almost any country). Please take care of yourself and others to the best of your ability.

Experts have questioned shortcomings and lack of clarity in vital registration, testing practices, and classification of COVID-19 deaths....
India has had 3·6 million cases of COVID-19, the third most in the world after the USA and Brazil, with 65 288 officially confirmed deaths from the disease as of Sept 1, 2020."

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 2/fulltext

India is in denial
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... 19-crisis/

Covid shatters Indian economy
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/05/worl ... virus.html

Worst is yet to come
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/09/ ... 37264.html
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SarathW wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:37 am
No_Mind wrote: Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:44 am Might be too early but as far as my understanding of Covid-19 spread pattern goes it seems at least in Kolkata we have dodged a major bullet.

Only 3 cases in population of 10 million in the city. All returned from UK.
0 cases in other 80 million of the province.
10 days into the situation no sign of community transmission. Oddly none of these patients have been successful at infecting their family members.

I think like SARS, swine flu etc the virus cannot flourish in hot and humid weather. Temp less than 20°C and humidity < 40% is what the pathogen likes

Also since most of us have suffered from malaria (and it seems from a study in France that chloroquine + azithromycin is an effective treatment) we might have some antibodies that help us.

It is the coming economic tsunami that is more worrying.

:namaste:
I hope that Indian leaders understand how critical this problem is.
Indian cases are growing at a rate of 10% a day and soon will catch up with the curve.
This is not a time for complacency.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
My worst fear came to frution after nine months.
Now India will be the second highest Covid-19 cases in the world.
It will soon surpass the America as well.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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SarathW wrote: Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:36 pm
My worst fear came to frution after nine months.
Now India will be the second highest Covid-19 cases in the world.
It will soon surpass the America as well.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I fail to understand what the fear was about? You expected that due to some divine intervention the virus would give us on the subcontinent a wide berth?

Do you want to know what is fear? I was without work in April and May. I felt fear. I have been working from age of 21 and after 29 years I was unable to get any work. I spent 60 days without earning a dime. I felt fear. Real fear.

The number of fatalities are reaching record lows in urban areas. Calcutta reported 17 deaths yesterday. Assume it was actually 68. In a city of 10 million that is par for the course.

But the good news is I earned several dimes yesterday.

I guess I am probably not cut out to be a Buddhist after all. Or at least what passes as Buddhism from mid-20th century. No compassion.

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India is not only reporting world's highest number of daily cases but world's highest number of daily recoveries. Somehow this fact is being consistently overlooked. Also in the 4 major cities (population 8 million and more) the doubling time has gone from 5 days to above 50 and getting more extended. This clearly indicates herd immunity ..

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Hi-no mind
I agree with you.
Not having a job and not having food is worse than the disease for many people.
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No_Mind wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 8:04 am

India is not only reporting world's highest number of daily cases but world's highest number of daily recoveries. Somehow this fact is being consistently overlooked. Also in the 4 major cities (population 8 million and more) the doubling time has gone from 5 days to above 50 and getting more extended. This clearly indicates herd immunity ..

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Not necessarily herd immunity.....it could be that as things progress more people start wearing masks, social distancing, washing hands, avoiding crowds when possible, etc. Doing these things is equivalent to "herd immunity" in that the way that "herd immunity" works is that the virus living in one person has a difficult time to find a new person to infect because most of the "herd" is "immune"......this can happen because the "herd" is predominently made of individuals who have developed antibodies or it can happen because the "herd" has adopted behaviors which thwart the virus from spreading like wearing masks, social distancing, etc.....
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The way I understand herd immunity means or the word derived from r people and animals living in the wild.
Animals in the wild do not ware masks.
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If HCQ is such a good drug why Americans did not use it considering Mr. Trump support this drug from the very beginning?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsVGO8SNloY
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SarathW wrote: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:54 pm The way I understand herd immunity means or the word derived from r people and animals living in the wild.
Animals in the wild do not ware masks.
Nothing to do with wild animals. It derives from the practice of vaccinating a domestic herd, like cattle. If you vaccinate enough of your cattle so that an unvaccinated cow will not come into contact with a unvaccinated, contagious cow in its life than the herd can be said to be immune. The individual cow may be highly vulnerable, but the herd is fairly safe from rapid explosive spread. Obviously this only works with diseases spread by close contact, not by ticks or mosquitoes. Unfortunately, it does not really work with people at all because generally people eventually travel, share the same water and air as others, and are in communication or trade with other groups.
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Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or social immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections, thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[1][2] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[3] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
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SarathW wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:54 pm Herd immunity (also called herd effect, community immunity, population immunity, or social immunity) is a form of indirect protection from infectious disease that occurs when a sufficient percentage of a population has become immune to an infection, whether through vaccination or previous infections, thereby reducing the likelihood of infection for individuals who lack immunity.[1][2] Immune individuals are unlikely to contribute to disease transmission, disrupting chains of infection, which stops or slows the spread of disease.[3] The greater the proportion of immune individuals in a community, the smaller the probability that non-immune individuals will come into contact with an infectious individual.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Yes, and the term comes from domestic agriculture, notably the cattle industry. It doe snot really work with people because, even ignoring the ethics, you cannot normally keep people completely isolated. Look at the history of any almost any infectious disease. The '"isolated" group sooner or later almost always comes into contact with others or with those who have had contact with others. Isolation may slow the spread of the disease, but hardly ends it.
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Europe is facing a second wave of coronavirus and the young are being blamed.

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Alcohol is the answer to Covid related unrest in Bali!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtLyixXdfo
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COVID patients need is good hospital care.
The president is treated with Remdesivir is unfortunately in short supply.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remdesivir

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SarathW wrote: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:23 pm Remdesivir
:roll: and also REGN-COV2
September 30, 2020 at 10:00 p.m. GMT+10

J. Randall Curtis gives remdesivir to his seriously ill coronavirus patients based on statistics, not his own experience. From the bedside, he said, benefits of the drug are undetectable.

"It’s hard when you’re on the front line, knowing whether it makes a difference. People are not jumping out of bed and saying, ‘Thanks, you saved my life,' " said Curtis, a doctor at Seattle’s Harborview Medical Center. "We are continuing to use it, because if you look at all the data in total, there probably is some benefit.”

But for doctors and researchers, clinical studies have reinforced questions about the effectiveness of the drug and who is best suited to receive it. The most conclusive evidence shows it reduces hospital stays from 15 to 11 days but does not significantly reduce the odds of dying of the coronavirus. And advocates are also questioning whether Gilead’s $3,120 price per course of treatment is justified, based on its modest benefits and previous taxpayer investments. Remdesivir was developed in partnership with government agencies and at least $70 million from U.S. taxpayers.

“The drug clearly has some kind of benefit, but it’s really not clear how great of a benefit it is. Everyone is waiting for better mortality data,” said Walid Gellad, a physician and director of the Center for Pharmaceutical Policy and Prescribing at the University of Pittsburgh Department of Medicine. “The pricing is based on this drug that has a huge impact, and it’s turning out that it does not have a huge impact.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... us-gilead/
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Agree. Considering the mortal rate is about 1%, we don't know how the patient is survived.
This is the same with HCQ.
I think it is better to do something than nothing.
It is just like voting for the presidential election.
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