Monastics protesting social injustice

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GnosticMind
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Re: Monastics protesting social injustice

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"(Sumedho) said they should encourage morality in all political structures and not create division and emnity."

Well, it sounds good. Sumedho is good with diplomatic words sometimes -- but it's a tough call and I am sure he knows it, since he's such a mainstream conservative figure in the Thai Sangha, rubber-stamped by the King of Thailand no less --

"Thailand’s King Vajiralongkorn (Rama X) recently invited four senior Western monks in the Thai Forest Tradition of Theravada Buddhism to receive royal titles in honor of their contribution to Buddhism in Thailand and around the world."

https://tricycle.org/trikedaily/ajahn-pasanno/


Politicians worldwide and power-brokers are by their very nature amoral, and wouldn't listen to the world denying-hermit-Sangha -- the politicians or military men may, and do listen to the establishment Sangha or nationalist-reactionary-state and monarchy supporting Sangha ( see Burma where violence encouraging anti-Muslim clerics are very popular, Sri-Lanka where many leading monastics support hate-speech against minorities, Thailand where the Sangha frequently tacitly or passively or openly support monarchy) -- but those monks ( I don't refer to Sumedho personally here) are typically stooges of, and apologists for power, and not in any manner speaking truth to power.
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Re: Monastics protesting social injustice

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GnosticMind wrote: but those monks ( I don't refer to Sumedho personally here) are typically stooges of, and apologists for power, and not in any manner speaking truth to power
Venerable Ajahn Sumedho is no longer living in Thailand, he's back in the UK again.


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Re: Monastics protesting social injustice

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Yes, I know he's back in UK -- I am not sure why you infer I thought otherwise. In my posts I was broadly commenting on Sangha and their relation to protest, and -- whilst acknowledging Sumedho's undeniable place within the ultra-conservative and state-establishment Thai Sangha -- I was taking care to except Sumedho from any potentially slanderous assertions about him. I don't mind asserting critique of Burmese Ashin Wirathu and other Sri Lankan reactionaries -- there is ample evidence of what they get up to, and anyway, they are open and proud of what they represent politically. No secrets there. But I have no wish at all to indulge in unfounded tittle tattle about any monk, Sumedho very much included.

If you mean that Sumedho in his Dhamma desana was referring to the Buddhist efficacy of political critique of British politicians morality since he is based in Britain -- well, there's even less chance of success in that case -- I haven't lived in England for nigh on thirty years, but I do remember that the general public had almost no consciousness whatsoever of Buddhism and thus I can only conclude the chances of Buddhists being able to influence the political landscape is close to zero.

The utterly radical effect that monastics can have on individuals, to help them some way along the journey of freeing themselves up from the madness and chaos and endless tanha, lobha, dosa and moha and lack of impulse control encouraged in society -- well, that's a different matter, and something I see as potentially very productive.
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