Risk of taking vaccine jab

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retrofuturist wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:22 pm Greetings,
Spiny Norman wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:15 pm Do the maths.
To "do the maths" you've got to deny neither:

- the risks
- the benefits
- alternative treatments

Even if people could get easy access to all of the above information, they'd have to be non-partisan enough to have the integrity to evaluate them properly in a non-partisan manner.

What sounds simple on face value, is inordinately complicated. Hence a topic addressing the first of those things...

Metta,
Paul. :)
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Unfortunately, some people are caught in believing they have only 2 options.

Fortunately for me, solutions available include TCM and Othormolecular Medicine, which has shown good results.
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Bundokji wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:11 am One should admit that Pascal's Wager
there is something to lose, and maybe nothing to gain


since the vaccine could end your life, and maybe the virus won't
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cappuccino wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:12 pm there is something to lose, and maybe nothing to gain


since the vaccine could end your life, and maybe the virus won't
According to them, not taking the vaccine increases your chances of having severe symptoms, and therefore contributes to making limited hospital beds even more crowded. In human thought, deathbeds symbolize a moment of truth unlike any other, as if it is a wrapping up of your state of affairs in the world, hence being at the right side of history at this critical moment must be of great importance.

And what would be the right side of history in this particular instance? If you belong to a deluded majority, your responsibility would be diluted (the salt crystal into the river Ganges simile comes to mind!) by virtue of belonging to conventions reasonably, but, if you are alone or belonging to minority, the scale of universal justice wont be tipped into your favor, hence Pascal's Wager must make sense.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

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Bundokji wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:32 pm being at the right side of history at this critical moment must be of great importance.
yes …
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Kumara wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:21 am
Unfortunately, some people are caught in believing they have only 2 options.

Fortunately for me, solutions available include TCM and Othormolecular Medicine, which has shown good results.
I wouldn't put your faith in medical woo Bhante.
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understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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It just got close to home for mez
My cousin 42yrs old desired to return to teaching at her local school board after being off for stress(had difficulty forcing her kindergarten kids to wear masks) the board had made the vaccine mandatory to return to work, just like the Vipassana centres have done.
She died two weeks ago from the vaccine.
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Some countries even after 90% population is vaccinated they still insist the 10% take the vaccine.
It appears this is a punishment for the 10% but even the vaccinated people has to suffer because of this rule.
You can't enter any venue now without showing the proof of vaccination.
This mandate is just more than the health concerns.
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I'm double-vaxxed and lucky enough to not have had any significant complications to do with blood circulation and clots. My heart goes out to those who've not been so lucky with this experimental rushed vaccine.
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Greetings,
Coëmgenu wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:24 am My heart goes out to those who've not been so lucky with this experimental rushed vaccine.
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Paul. :)
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Ceisiwr wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:19 pm
Kumara wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:21 am
Unfortunately, some people are caught in believing they have only 2 options.

Fortunately for me, solutions available include TCM and Othormolecular Medicine, which has shown good results.
I wouldn't put your faith in medical woo Bhante.
Neither do I.
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Bundokji wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:32 pm According to them, not taking the vaccine increases your chances of having severe symptoms, and therefore contributes to making limited hospital beds even more crowded...
Who's "them"?

I know a monk who wasn't vaccinated, and got covid, and recovered through TCM.
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Kumara wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:10 am
Bundokji wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2021 8:32 pm According to them, not taking the vaccine increases your chances of having severe symptoms, and therefore contributes to making limited hospital beds even more crowded...
Who's "them"?

I know a monk who wasn't vaccinated, and got covid, and recovered through TCM.
Correlation isn’t causation.
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Coëmgenu wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:24 am I'm double-vaxxed and lucky enough to not have had any significant complications to do with blood circulation and clots. My heart goes out to those who've not been so lucky with this experimental rushed vaccine.
Which vaccine are you referring to?
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Kumara wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:10 am Who's "them"?
The "experts" as often quoted by governments officials or the media.
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

This was the last word of the Tathagata.
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Bundokji wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:49 am
Kumara wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:10 am Who's "them"?
The "experts" as often quoted by governments officials or the media.
Haha! As we all know, the oft quoted "experts" are usually wrong. :D
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