Risk of taking vaccine jab

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Bundokji wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:29 pm The state of Israel has been a leading example in vaccinating the majority of its population. It offered the country a period of relative calm in terms of the number of COVID deaths and hospitalizations. Recently, cases are on the rise again. From what i am reading, the long term efficacy of vaccination is not being questioned, but rather, the need for more vaccination and more restrictions moving forward:

https://www.ynetnews.com/health_science ... /r1q8dngro

The moral of the story: as long as we do not get sick or die from COVID, through the means of vaccination and lockdowns, we are safe.
There is only one plausible long-term outcome, which is that we will live with COVID in the community as we live with flu and malaria and measles. They can all be managed but none can be eradicated. Flu is probably the closest equivalent, since it is spread worldwide and constantly mutates.

Get used to it, folks.

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Kim OHara wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:15 am There is only one plausible long-term outcome, which is that we will live with COVID in the community as we live with flu and malaria and measles. They can all be managed but none can be eradicated. Flu is probably the closest equivalent, since it is spread worldwide and constantly mutates.

Get used to it, folks.

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Getting used to it might begin when people, media and governments stop treating it as "news worthy" or as breaking a norm. After 18 months, the daily counts of fresh infections and deaths still make news headlines. New regulations continue to be introduced. One can't help but wonder why!

Considering that the logic you have presented is valid, people were never forced or even encouraged into taking flu vaccines. I remember hearing stories of people who have not had flu in years until they took the seasonal flu jab, and we used to laugh at such stores. Now its all history.
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Greetings,

Please remember this topic is specifically about any risks associated with the vaccine, in contrast to policy responses, the media etc. and that is the only grounds upon which it has been deemed "in-scope" for the Wellness, Diet & Fitness section.

Broader discussion on COVID responses etc. can be done at Dharma Wheel Engaged.

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The lambda variation has reached Texas. The risks aren't in taking the vaccine, but in choosing not to. If you haven't taken it, do it for the people around you. We don't need more new varieties.
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We might as well note that one risk of taking the “jab” is that the rna spike protein encoding vaccines were originally developed for the strain of COVID that started us off.

Since that time, mutations in the virus’ genome have modified its spike protein structure (essentially making the rna spike encoding vaccines - and the antibody response they illicit - utterly phucking useless).

By getting the jab you illicit an immune response which develops white blood cells “who” won’t recognize our current variants.

In fact, if you read enough about it from legitimate sources, the potential of getting sick with a half assed immune system response is one catalyst for accelerated viral mutation.

Having said all that - current studies show (as we’ve been hearing for some time) that getting ill with a variant and being vaccinated tends to give you an upper hand on remaining alive (unless - you know - you could be otherwise “dead”).

I believe the Astra-Zeneca vaccine is the only one going the traditional route and immunizing by infecting the human with a weakened or non-functioning version of the virus.

That, of course, would offer the most protection, since the mutations that we are concerned about are happening in the spike protein and the AZ vaccines promotes immune response to ALL parts of the virus.

The AZ vaccine also causes lethal blood clots in 1 in 100,000 people (better chances of dying from THAT then attaining Visudhimagga Type Jhana - ie. it’s not as “rare” as we’d like it to be).

I personally got two jabs of Pfizer and I’m feeling pretty confident (which I’m beginning to realize is an unwarranted view).

As long as wealthy stake holders in Pfizer get their profit shares, I’m sure everything will work out for the better of mankind. 🤔
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In Australia, we may waste maybe $1.5 trillion or $60,000 per person saving maybe 25,000 elderly people at a cost of say $60 million per elderly person who have lived beyond the Buddha's 80 years so these elderly people can live say 5 more years.

We are lagging greatly in the vaccine matter so if i am forced to take a covid vax it will be at least 12 months or more away. At this stage, Novavax sounds OK. :smile:
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Inedible wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:26 am The risks aren't in taking the vaccine,
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DooDoot wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:51 am At this stage, Novavax sounds OK. :smile:
Here's a negative take on that product: https://rumble.com/vk71s6-novavax-safe- ... lity..html
The Novovax part starts around minute 6.
I haven't read the previous posts on this long thread; so I don't know what, if any, the consensus is. I will avoid the mRNA shots until the bitter end. Here's a video of what I think is a top doctor laying out the risks. He had until a short while ago been recommending the mRNA jabs: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html
I have been hoping that the WHO would approve the Sputnik V shot; but political forces seem to be successful in delaying that. Failing that eventuality, I would take one of the Chinese jabs. Maybe not very effective... but maybe not so dangerous. I figure if they can make the virus they can make the "cure".
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bazzaman wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:02 am Here's a negative take on that product: https://rumble.com/vk71s6-novavax-safe- ... lity..html
The Novovax part starts around minute 6.
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I wonder if anyone has some valid info on Sinopharm and Sinovac's Coronavac .
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bazzaman wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:02 am
DooDoot wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:51 am At this stage, Novavax sounds OK. :smile:
Here's a negative take on that product: https://rumble.com/vk71s6-novavax-safe- ... lity..html
The Novovax part starts around minute 6.
I haven't read the previous posts on this long thread; so I don't know what, if any, the consensus is. I will avoid the mRNA shots until the bitter end. Here's a video of what I think is a top doctor laying out the risks. He had until a short while ago been recommending the mRNA jabs: https://rumble.com/vk5jd0-dr.-peter-mcc ... situa.html
I have been hoping that the WHO would approve the Sputnik V shot; but political forces seem to be successful in delaying that. Failing that eventuality, I would take one of the Chinese jabs. Maybe not very effective... but maybe not so dangerous. I figure if they can make the virus they can make the "cure".
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I believe the Astra-Zeneca vaccine is the only one going the traditional route and immunizing by infecting the human with a weakened or non-functioning version of the virus.
This is not true the way I understand.
My understanding is AZ is also a manipulated virus inject into monkeys? or something.
Only the Chinese one is the weakened or non-functioning version of the virus. (the old technology)
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SarathW wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:19 pm
I believe the Astra-Zeneca vaccine is the only one going the traditional route and immunizing by infecting the human with a weakened or non-functioning version of the virus.
This is not true the way I understand.
My understanding is AZ is also a manipulated virus inject into monkeys? or something.
Only the Chinese one is the weakened or non-functioning version of the virus. (the old technology)
You are right .
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Dr Malone a top virologist lays out the ugly truth:

https://rumble.com/vkkriq-episode-1137- ... mp;mrefc=2
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