semen emitting addressed

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I believe this argument crops up in the Kathāvatthu. Something else Buddhists have argued about for centuries it seems.
“When serenity is developed, what purpose does it serve? The mind is developed. And when the mind is developed, what purpose does it serve? Lust is abandoned.”

“When insight is developed, what purpose does it serve? Wisdom is developed. And when wisdom is developed, what purpose does it serve? Ignorance is abandoned."


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Yep. Definitely beating a dead horse here. This theme has been whipped enough already.
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pitithefool wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:37 pm
auto wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:06 pm
Your comment indicates that you hold this view: that you can control nocturnal emissions no matter what, but that does not tally with the vinaya.

In the view of the vinaya, only intentional emissions of semen are seen as a problem.
Nocturnal emissions that are not brought about by volitional actions are not counted as offenses, but deliberately attempting to cause them is indeed an offense.
Following rules are not yet fulfilling them. And fulfillment of the rules is the starting point of the mindfulness practice.
https://suttacentral.net/sn47.3/en/sujato wrote: What is the starting point of skillful qualities?
Ko cādi kusalānaṁ dhammānaṁ?
Well purified ethics and correct view.
Sīlañca suvisuddhaṁ, diṭṭhi ca ujukā.
When your ethics are well purified and your view is correct, you should develop the four kinds of mindfulness meditation in three ways, depending on and grounded on ethics.
Yato kho te, bhikkhu, sīlañca suvisuddhaṁ bhavissati diṭṭhi ca ujukā, tato tvaṁ, bhikkhu, sīlaṁ nissāya sīle patiṭṭhāya cattāro satipaṭṭhāne tividhena bhāveyyāsi.
Following rules isn't yet principle and principle is bigger than life that means the fetter in the heart has no grasp over the sense organ objects at that point and you are safe during the waking state.
Mindfulness needs be gotten within a day before one goes to sleep, principle only protects during waking state. Nocturnal emission just shows one haven't reached mindfulness at that day, and its critical only on certain periods, so if you think you had mindfulness because you didn't emitted then it likely weren't the critical day.
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