General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:
“Mendicants, there are these five drawbacks of falling asleep unmindful and unaware.
“Pañcime, bhikkhave, ādīnavā muṭṭhassatissa asampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep badly and wake miserably. You have bad dreams. The deities don’t protect you. And you emit semen.
Dukkhaṁ supati, dukkhaṁ paṭibujjhati, pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā na rakkhanti, asuci muccati.
So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:There are these five benefits of falling asleep mindful and aware.
Pañcime, bhikkhave, ānisaṁsā upaṭṭhitassatissa sampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep at ease and wake happily. You don’t have bad dreams. The deities protect you. And you don’t emit semen.
Sukhaṁ supati, sukhaṁ paṭibujjhati, na pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā rakkhanti, asuci na muccati.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:
“Mendicants, there are these five drawbacks of falling asleep unmindful and unaware.
“Pañcime, bhikkhave, ādīnavā muṭṭhassatissa asampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep badly and wake miserably. You have bad dreams. The deities don’t protect you. And you emit semen.
Dukkhaṁ supati, dukkhaṁ paṭibujjhati, pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā na rakkhanti, asuci muccati.
So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:There are these five benefits of falling asleep mindful and aware.
Pañcime, bhikkhave, ānisaṁsā upaṭṭhitassatissa sampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep at ease and wake happily. You don’t have bad dreams. The deities protect you. And you don’t emit semen.
Sukhaṁ supati, sukhaṁ paṭibujjhati, na pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā rakkhanti, asuci na muccati.
A nocturnal emission, informally known as a wet dream, sex dream, nightfall or sleep orgasm, is a spontaneous orgasm during sleep that includes ejaculation for a male, or vaginal wetness or an orgasm (or both) for a female. Nocturnal emissions are most common during adolescence and early young adult years, but they may happen any time after puberty. It is possible for men to wake up during a wet dream or simply to sleep through it, but for women, some researchers have added the requirement that she should also awaken during the orgasm and perceive that the orgasm happened before it counts as a wet dream. Vaginal lubrication alone does not mean that the woman has had an orgasm.[1]
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Medieval
In European folklore, nocturnal emissions were believed to be caused by a succubus copulating with the individual at night, an event associated with sleep paralysis and possibly night terrors.[citation needed][dubious – discuss]..
A succubus is a demon or supernatural entity in folklore, in female form, that appears in dreams to seduce men, usually through sexual activity. According to religious traditions, repeated sexual activity with a succubus can cause poor physical or mental health, even death. In modern representations, a succubus is often depicted as a beautiful seductress or enchantress, rather than as demonic or frightening. The male counterpart to the succubus is the incubus.
auto wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
... So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events...
On this topic, I believe that those relatively recent medical studies that say that ejaculating several times per week lower the risk of prostate cancer were researched with common people who were average lustful. I don't think they had included celibates working on abandoning lust and desire. So I guess not emitting semen due to falling asleep mindfully and aware may not mean increasing the risk.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:
“Mendicants, there are these five drawbacks of falling asleep unmindful and unaware.
“Pañcime, bhikkhave, ādīnavā muṭṭhassatissa asampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep badly and wake miserably. You have bad dreams. The deities don’t protect you. And you emit semen.
Dukkhaṁ supati, dukkhaṁ paṭibujjhati, pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā na rakkhanti, asuci muccati.
So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events.
https://suttacentral.net/an5.210/en/sujato wrote:There are these five benefits of falling asleep mindful and aware.
Pañcime, bhikkhave, ānisaṁsā upaṭṭhitassatissa sampajānassa niddaṁ okkamayato.
What five?
Katame pañca?
You sleep at ease and wake happily. You don’t have bad dreams. The deities protect you. And you don’t emit semen.
Sukhaṁ supati, sukhaṁ paṭibujjhati, na pāpakaṁ supinaṁ passati, devatā rakkhanti, asuci na muccati.
how can deities protect?
Maybe the deities protect from emitting semen during sleep through helping emitting semen when awake?
auto wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:38 pm
... So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events...
On this topic, I believe that those relatively recent medical studies that say that ejaculating several times per week lower the risk of prostate cancer were researched with common people who were average lustful. I don't think they had included celibates working on abandoning lust and desire. So I guess not emitting semen due to falling asleep mindfully and aware may not mean increasing the risk.
Yes .. when you study Spirituality, besides sex, there is a lot of talk about Sexual Energy and how that Energy is important for a person's spiritual and moral growth.
In Buddhism, energy is also very important.
viriya:
Persistence; energy. One of the ten perfections (pāramīs), the five faculties (bala; see bodhi-pakkhiya-dhammā), and the five strengths/dominant factors (indriya; see bodhi-pakkhiya-dhammā). https://www.accesstoinsight.org/glossary.html#v
The results suggest that creating sperm is far more difficult than scientists had imagined, demanding a diversion of resources that might otherwise go into assuring a male's long-term health.
You should never let the energy go out. This energy must be controlled and directed to the other parts of the body. What is required of the Tantra practitioner is to develop the ability to utilize the faculties of enjoyment and static experience that are specifically generated through the flow of regenerative fluids within their own energy channels. It is crucial to have the ability to protect oneself Even from the emission error. It is not an act of pure ordinary sexuality. https://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=24497
GnosticMind wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:02 pm
OP wrote--
''So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events.''
With all respect - we are lay people -- why should it matter to us?
If we are ordained, then it may ( or may not ) be an issue; I have no idea -- but as lay people?
Why worry about something so natural, normal and probably essential to the human organism, body and mind ?
It’s a valid line of enquiry if a layman is practicing celibacy. Also if you are referring to the proposed link between ejaculation and prostate cancer, the last I read the evidence for that was pretty weak.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
pitithefool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 am
Man what is going on here?
Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm
... Also if you are referring to the proposed link between ejaculation and prostate cancer, the last I read the evidence for that was pretty weak.
GnosticMind wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:02 pm
OP wrote--
''So there is possible/normal that one can stop semen emitting during nocturnal events.''
With all respect - we are lay people -- why should it matter to us?
If we are ordained, then it may ( or may not ) be an issue; I have no idea -- but as lay people?
Why worry about something so natural, normal and probably essential to the human organism, body and mind ?
The way you live alters how DNA is used by the cells. So how do you know what is normal?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism wrote:Lamarckism, also known as Lamarckian inheritance or neo-Lamarckism,[1] is the notion that an organism can pass on to its offspring physical characteristics that the parent organism acquired through use or disuse during its lifetime. It is also called the inheritance of acquired characteristics or more recently soft inheritance. The idea is named after the French zoologist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744–1829), who incorporated the classical era theory of soft inheritance into his theory of evolution as a supplement to his concept of orthogenesis, a drive towards complexity.
Introductory textbooks contrast Lamarckism with Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection.
add here a study how it is possible to inherit traits acquired in the past life. Sutta about how Sakka got his names, Suttas about deeds etc.
Studies in the fields of epigenetics, genetics, and somatic hypermutation have highlighted the possible inheritance of traits acquired by the previous generation.
On the other note i am interested when did the past life, future life notion got erased from scientific papers, it used to be common knowledge?
pitithefool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 am
Man what is going on here?
Ceisiwr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm
... Also if you are referring to the proposed link between ejaculation and prostate cancer, the last I read the evidence for that was pretty weak.
I know the vinaya pitaka contains provisions for this particular event and it's under the sanghadisesa rule for not ejaculating.
It basically says it's a non-offense if somebody has nocturnal emissions, but an offense if one were to do something on purpose to cause a nocturnal emission.
Basically if you made it happen on purpose, it's an offense.
If not, it's a non-offense.
However, there is no provision for laypeople and sexual misconduct (5 precepts) is pretty much always defined as adultery, so I wouldn't worry about it too much lol.
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Epigenetics is a thing but Lamarckism has been falsified.
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”