Hi mikemikenz66 wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 10:52 pmSure. But unless one has attained the pinnacle it might be counterproductive to think that one knows what that pinnacle actually is.BrokenBones wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 10:37 pm Right Samadhi is the pinnacle of the path... it matters.
Besides, my main point is that whether one thinks that lite-jhana is all there is, and that is where insight arises, or whether one sees that lite-jhana as what happens before or after hard-jhana, the actual insight occurs in a lite-jhana/vipassana-jhana/non-jhana state.
What the hard-jhana advocates would say is that having experienced the amount of letting go necessary to get to that point is essential to full awakening. But not essential for lower levels.
Mike
I'm sorry... I don't quite follow your whole argument.
Analogy of my understanding of your post...
To me, it seems like you're saying you live in a town and you want to visit a town 5 miles away... instead of going directly there you travel 200 miles to the big city... you're miles away from where you want to be (and the bright lights are just so alluring).
Why not just go directly to where you need to be?
Once you're enamoured by the bright lights... there's every chance you'll get lost trying to find your way back.