first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
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first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
many have no interest in declaring false attainments. in MN 61, the Lord Buddha crucified his son Rahula if he uttered false speech. your hundreds of posts on myriad forums & blogs are not about any type of real jhana i know or have heard of
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
how to hypnotize a chicken with one line
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
frank k wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:25 pm first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
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According to the video of baby capybara in link, it may be termed animals' jhana , rather than the first jhana.
𝓑𝓾𝓭𝓭𝓱𝓪 𝓗𝓪𝓭 𝓤𝓷𝓮𝓺𝓾𝓲𝓿𝓸𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓓𝓮𝓬𝓵𝓪𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽
𝓐𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓽ā 𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 𝓘𝓼
- Iᴅᴇᴀ ᴏꜰ Sᴏᴜʟ ɪs Oᴜᴛᴄᴏᴍᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴀɴ Uᴛᴛᴇʀʟʏ Fᴏᴏʟɪsʜ Vɪᴇᴡ
V. Nanananda
𝓐𝓷𝓪𝓽𝓽ā 𝓜𝓮𝓪𝓷𝓼 𝓣𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝓣𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓮 𝓘𝓼
- Nᴏ sᴜᴄʜ ᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴀs ᴀ Sᴇʟғ, Sᴏᴜʟ, Eɢᴏ, Sᴘɪʀɪᴛ, ᴏʀ Āᴛᴍᴀɴ
V. Buddhādasa
Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
ha! That chicken is doing vism. and ajahn brahm "real jhana" of absorbing into the parimukham "line drawing nimitta", then emerging from the hypnosis later.
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Even animal jhana is better than vism "real first jhana".Sabbe_Dhamma_Anatta wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:34 amfrank k wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:25 pm first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
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According to the video of baby capybara in link, it may be termed animals' jhana , rather than the first jhana.
Animal jhana can hunt and catch food to survive, feed themselves and their children.
vism. "jhana" can't even do vipassana.
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhanafrank k wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 11:55 amEven animal jhana is better than vism "real first jhana".Sabbe_Dhamma_Anatta wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:34 amfrank k wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 3:25 pm first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... sy-35.html
According to the video of baby capybara in link, it may be termed animals' jhana , rather than the first jhana.
Animal jhana can hunt and catch food to survive, feed themselves and their children.
vism. "jhana" can't even do vipassana.
I may be slow learner but im at least learning...
Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
but not at the same time.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 pm ...
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhana
And that causes huge problems with how monastics do their main practice.
I've spend 10 years in that Vism. system and have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of earnest diligent meditators suffering needlessly because they're following a misguided approach.
They spend years chasing a pure samatha, while neglecting the vipassana that would happen organically, holistically, and simultaneously with developing jhanas according to the EBT suttas.
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
Even in ebt u need to emerge and do vipasannafrank k wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pmbut not at the same time.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 pm ...
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhana
And that causes huge problems with how monastics do their main practice.
I've spend 10 years in that Vism. system and have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of earnest diligent meditators suffering needlessly because they're following a misguided approach.
They spend years chasing a pure samatha, while neglecting the vipassana that would happen organically, holistically, and simultaneously with developing jhanas according to the EBT suttas.
I may be slow learner but im at least learning...
Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... sy-35.html
ha! That chicken is doing vism. and ajahn brahm "real jhana" of absorbing into the parimukham "line drawing nimitta", then emerging from the hypnosis later.
Such cruelty and lack of respect for other living creatures is truly disgusting.
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:16 pmEven in ebt u need to emerge and do vipasannafrank k wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pmbut not at the same time.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 pm ...
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhana
And that causes huge problems with how monastics do their main practice.
I've spend 10 years in that Vism. system and have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of earnest diligent meditators suffering needlessly because they're following a misguided approach.
They spend years chasing a pure samatha, while neglecting the vipassana that would happen organically, holistically, and simultaneously with developing jhanas according to the EBT suttas.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
Mindfulness in Plain English, gives a list of items that meditation isn't (a list of 11 misconceptions).
1) Meditation is just a relaxation technique.
2) Meditation means going into a trance.
etc
1) Meditation is just a relaxation technique.
2) Meditation means going into a trance.
etc
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
So one does vippassana only in access not in jhana, doesn't one ?confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:16 pmEven in ebt u need to emerge and do vipasannafrank k wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pmbut not at the same time.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 pm ...
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhana
And that causes huge problems with how monastics do their main practice.
I've spend 10 years in that Vism. system and have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of earnest diligent meditators suffering needlessly because they're following a misguided approach.
They spend years chasing a pure samatha, while neglecting the vipassana that would happen organically, holistically, and simultaneously with developing jhanas according to the EBT suttas.
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i dont understand
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Re: first jhana really can be this easy (35 sec. video demonstration)
Can you point to suttas that express this opinion?confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:16 pmEven in ebt u need to emerge and do vipasannafrank k wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:33 pmbut not at the same time.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 2:56 pm ...
Vism supports that meditator can do jhana and also vipasanna based on jhana
And that causes huge problems with how monastics do their main practice.
I've spend 10 years in that Vism. system and have witnessed hundreds, if not thousands of earnest diligent meditators suffering needlessly because they're following a misguided approach.
They spend years chasing a pure samatha, while neglecting the vipassana that would happen organically, holistically, and simultaneously with developing jhanas according to the EBT suttas.