My experience of self is absolutely real. And if you need proof then your feelings and responsibility for your deeds is more thanDiamondNgXZ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:17 amI dunno where you're intending to go with this.Zenny wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:45 am
You are taking for granted that your theory of "ultimate truth level" is true.
Its like saying let's see the truth in light of the ultimate truth of the resurrection of jesus.
Well,I don't believe in jesus or the 5 aggregates theory.
But I know I'm responsible right now for typing these words.
Do you want to dispute that?
Or is dependent origination responsible for My typing?
1. This is a Buddhist, Dhamma forum. I speak Dhamma here, naturally assuming that Dhamma is true.
2. If you're not willing to accept it, fine, your own faith is your responsibility.
3. I cannot demonstrate that the ultimate truth of not self is true to you, only you can do it on your own via personal dedicated practise.
4. If you're unwilling to change your mind, unwilling to accept Buddhism as truth, why are you here really? Trying to pull us away from the Dhamma?
5. As for you typing this, as mentioned, this is sense of self, not disputed by no self theory. Your delusion of self is so strong, you naturally cannot see no self. There's no dispute.
enough to illustrate this.
To think that your responsibility or your will is a delusion is remarkable.
Buddhist or non buddhist can see this goes against how you act in reality.
In other words what you are saying is just an incorrect idealism.
And what is wrong in a non buddhist engaging a Buddhist? Surely your faith is stronger than a robust discussion?