The vast majority of cases of Down's are not inherited. Unless we are talking about Robertsonian Translocation, which make up a small percentage of Down Syndrome cases, the condition is not "spread".For now the best solution is to stop spreading Down Syndrome.
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Inedible
“Knowing that this body is just like foam,
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
understanding it has the nature of a mirage,
cutting off Māra’s flower-tipped arrows,
one should go beyond the King of Death’s sight.”
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One needn't be personally, emotionally involved in order to strongly hold a stance about something.
For example, you probably never have been nor will be involved directly in capital punishment, yet, as a Buddhist, you're supposed to have a strong stance about it.
I've never taken heroin nor do I ever intend to, nor has any of the people I know closely, yet I have a strong stance about it.
It's called "having character".
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
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The problem is that society advocates for two potentially mutually exclusive actions: 1. you must have sex, and 2. you must not become pregnant if you don't want to.
As long as this is so, there will be a need for abortions.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
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Yes, you could spend eternity crafting a more pleasing character. Samsara is the place to be if you want to chase dreams. Or cut through to the root of the matter. Everything must go, so don't waste time making it pretty before you flush it down the toilet.
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Then it's highly ironic that you post here.Inedible wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:33 pmYes, you could spend eternity crafting a more pleasing character. Samsara is the place to be if you want to chase dreams. Or cut through to the root of the matter. Everything must go, so don't waste time making it pretty before you flush it down the toilet.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
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Where is the list of the things that Buddhists are "supposed" to have a strong stance about? It's very different from keeping a precept, isn't it...
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Keeping precepts and having strong stances about the themes of the precepts go hand in hand. Except for those people who are clinging to rites and rituals.
Hic Rhodus, hic salta!
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Yes, that is just like me.
If it comes up in conversation I tend to admit to being a hypocrite. Usually it is because what I did was better than what I said.
One of your examples was capital punishment. I think murder is still murder even when it is government authorized. No one really cares what I think and it wouldn't matter if I approved of capital punishment, either. I'm not in a position to act on an opinion about it.
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Evidence? I don't have strong stances about the "themes of the precepts" (whatever they are) nor do many people I know, nor am I expected to have, by monks or laity alike. You shouldn't extrapolate from your experiences on internet forums. They aren't the real world.
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Precepts are a tool for increasing mindfulness. They also protect again having guilt in the mind when it is time to cultivate jhana. They don't require having strong feelings or opinions.
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Downs Syndrome people are beautiful, and people with Downs Syndrome can be healed with advanced technology or Transcendental powers of the Buddha and Spiritual Miracles of growth. There's a reason people don't want other human beings murdered. Please go find out the value of human life, and if you already know the value of human life, please connect to it, because life's value is priceless.
That sage who has perfect insight,
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.
-Dhammapada.
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.
-Dhammapada.
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Exactly so. Any relationship between the two in the real world is completely factitious.
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What would it mean for a person with Down's Syndrome to be "healed"? It is I believe a chromosomal disorder, so rectifying that in a living adult human would be a very big deal indeed. Once you have defined this "healing", do you have any evidence that it has taken place?Mahabrahma wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:19 pm Downs Syndrome people are beautiful, and people with Downs Syndrome can be healed with advanced technology or Transcendental powers of the Buddha and Spiritual Miracles of growth.
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The medical industry hides this kind of thing, but I have even met people who have been fully healed of autism. People also go to Faith Healing Ceremonies in the Christian Church to be healed by the Holy Spirit. No doubt you have heard of Jesus Healing people with the Holy Spirit. Healing miracles are real and the modern medical industry tries to hide them because the Spirit heals for free.Sam Vara wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:44 pmWhat would it mean for a person with Down's Syndrome to be "healed"? It is I believe a chromosomal disorder, so rectifying that in a living adult human would be a very big deal indeed. Once you have defined this "healing", do you have any evidence that it has taken place?Mahabrahma wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:19 pm Downs Syndrome people are beautiful, and people with Downs Syndrome can be healed with advanced technology or Transcendental powers of the Buddha and Spiritual Miracles of growth.
That sage who has perfect insight,
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.
-Dhammapada.
at the summit of spiritual perfection:
that’s who I call a brahmin.
-Dhammapada.
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Buddhist countries practice capital punishment and allow abortion. I oppose capital punishment on moral grounds, but recognize that Buddhists have historically interpreted the precepts differently. It may be worth noting that one of the reasons abortion is legally practiced in poor Buddhist countries is a recognition that infanticide is the alternative and that illegal abortions will continue.