Uposatha Observance Club

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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salayatananirodha wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 am uposatha is supposed to be kept the 14th and 15th of the lunar fortnight, so according to my calendar that is september 12 and september 13
That's just your opinion. The Theravāda understanding of cātuddase pannarase aṭṭhamiyā ca is that uposatha falls on the fourteenth day when it's a 14-day half-month, on the fifteenth day when it's a 15-day half-month, and on the eighth day of every half-month.
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https://suttacentral.net/an3.37/en/bodhi wrote:“Bhikkhus, (1) on the eighth of the fortnight, the ministers and assembly members of the four great kings wander over this world, thinking: ‘We hope there are many people who behave properly toward their mother and father, behave properly toward ascetics and brahmins, honor the elders of the family, observe the uposatha, keep the extra observance days, and do meritorious deeds.’ (2) On the fourteenth of the fortnight, the sons of the four great kings wander over this world, thinking: ‘We hope there are many people who behave properly toward their mother and father … … and do meritorious deeds.’ (3) On the fifteenth, the uposatha day, the four great kings themselves wander over this world, thinking: ‘We hope there are many people who behave properly toward their mother and father … and do meritorious deeds.’
https://suttacentral.net/sn10.5/en/sujato wrote:“I have heard this from the perfected ones.
The native spirits will not mess with anyone
who lives the spiritual life
by observing the sabbath

complete in all eight factors
on the fourteenth and the fifteenth days,
and the eighth day of the fortnight,
as well as on the fortnight of special displays.
But now today I see
native spirits messing with Sānu.”

“What you heard from the perfected ones is right.
The native spirits will not mess with anyone
who lives the spiritual life
by observing the sabbath

complete in all eight factors
on the fourteenth and the fifteenth days,
and the eighth day of the fortnight,
as well as on the fortnight of special displays.
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salayatananirodha wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 am
Lucas Oliveira wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:57 pm Full Moon - September 14

https://www.calendar-12.com/moon_phases/2019


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uposatha is supposed to be kept the 14th and 15th of the lunar fortnight, so according to my calendar that is september 12 and september 13
Full Moon - September 14

Astronomical Moon Phase

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Dhammanando wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:38 am
salayatananirodha wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:30 am uposatha is supposed to be kept the 14th and 15th of the lunar fortnight, so according to my calendar that is september 12 and september 13
That's just your opinion. The Theravāda understanding of cātuddase pannarase aṭṭhamiyā ca is that uposatha falls on the fourteenth day when it's a 14-day half-month, on the fifteenth day when it's a 15-day half-month, and on the eighth day of every half-month.
https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-kd2/en/horner-brahmali wrote:
Now at that time monks, thinking: “The recital of the Pātimokkha on an Observance day is allowed by the Lord,” recited the Pātimokkha three times during the half-month—on the fourteenth, on the fifteenth and on the eighth (days) of the half-month. They told this matter to the Lord. He said:

“ Monks, the Pātimokkha should not be recited three times in the half-month. Whoever should (so) recite it, there is an offence of wrong-doing. I allow you, monks, to recite the Pātimokkha once in the half-month: either on this fourteenth or on the fifteenth (day).”
As far as I can tell this confirms the fact that there’s 3 Uposatha days in a fortnight (except when there is no 15th day), inclusive of the 14th day. So for example the day of the full moon & the day prior to it are both observance days.
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salayatananirodha wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:44 am As far as I can tell this confirms the fact that there’s 3 Uposatha days in a fortnight (except when there is no 15th day), inclusive of the 14th day. So for example the day of the full moon & the day prior to it are both observance days.
I agree that it's open to being read that way, but it doesn't supply any confirmation that this way of reading it is correct. It's also open to being read as the Theravāda tradition reads it, i.e., by taking the three specified days as being three possible days on which uposathas might fall subject to the vagaries of the calendar, rather than as three days in every month on which uposathas will invariably fall. According to the former reading, uposathas fall on the eighth day of every half-month, on the fourteenth day (but not the fifteenth) when it's a 14-day half-month, and on the fifteenth day (but not the fourteenth) when it's a 15-day half-month.
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November

Full Moon - 12, Tue

New Moon - 26, Tue

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December

Full Moon - 12, Thu

New Moon - 26, Thu

https://www.calendar-12.com/moon_phases/2019



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January 2020

Full Moon - 9, Thu

New Moon - 24, Fri

https://forestsangha.org/community/cale ... nners/2020



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February - 2020

Full Moon - 8, Sat

Magha Puja

Māgha Pūjā is the second most important Buddhist festival,[1] celebrated on the full moon day of the third lunar month[2] in Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Sri Lanka and on the full moon day of Tabaung in Myanmar. It celebrates a gathering that was held between the Buddha and 1,250 of his first disciples, which, according to tradition, preceded the custom of periodic recitation of discipline by monks. On the day, Buddhists celebrate the creation of an ideal and exemplary community, which is why it is sometimes called Saṅgha Day, the Saṅgha referring to the Buddhist community, and for some Buddhist schools this is specifically the monastic community.[1] In Thailand, the Pāli term Māgha-pūraṇamī is also used for the celebration, meaning 'to honor on the full moon of the third lunar month'.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magha_Puja

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March - 2020

Full Moon - 8, Sun

New Moon - 23, Mon

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April - 2020

Full Moon - 7, Tue

New Moon - 21, Tue

https://forestsangha.org/community/cale ... nners/2020

https://www.calendar-12.com/moon_phases/2020


Songkran - New Year in Thailand - 13, Mon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songkran


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