Sex before marriage

Buddhist ethical conduct including the Five Precepts (Pañcasikkhāpada), and Eightfold Ethical Conduct (Aṭṭhasīla).
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Gwi
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Re: Sex before marriage

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Khuddakapāṭha Aṭṭhakathā:

The result of not violating the third precept:

1. have no enemies,
2. loved by everyone,
3. obtain food, drink, clothing, shelter, and others,
4. sleep well... honestly... NOT LOWESTED ...
NOT SEPARATE FROM THE LOVED, etc.


the result of violating, vice versa.

1. have an enemy,
2. hated by many people,
3. do not get food, drink, clothing, shelter, and others,
4. sleep not soundly,
5. it's hard to tell the truth... LOW LOOKING
... PARTICIPATE WITH YOUR LOVED PERSON
(you'll cry sadly), etc.



Sirimāvimana Aṭṭhakathā:

"Bhagavā was staying at Rājagahå ...
At that time, Sirimā had given up
Her impure profession (prostitution)
because of the attainment of sotāpannå ...."

Why did she leave?
it violates the third precept.
Bahagia Tidak Harus Selalu Bersama

Dhammapadå 370
"Tinggalkanlah 5 (belantara) dan patahkan 5 (belenggu rendah),
Serta kembangkan 5 potensi (4 iddhipādā + 1 ussoḷhi).
Bhikkhu yang telah menaklukkan 5 kungkungan (belenggu tinggi),
Lebih layak disebut 'orang yang telah mengarungi air baih (saṃsārå)'."
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Re: Sex before marriage

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I forgot 1,

Khuddakapāṭha Aṭṭhakathā:

Avoidance:
have complete senses.

do not avoid:
Disabled
Bahagia Tidak Harus Selalu Bersama

Dhammapadå 370
"Tinggalkanlah 5 (belantara) dan patahkan 5 (belenggu rendah),
Serta kembangkan 5 potensi (4 iddhipādā + 1 ussoḷhi).
Bhikkhu yang telah menaklukkan 5 kungkungan (belenggu tinggi),
Lebih layak disebut 'orang yang telah mengarungi air baih (saṃsārå)'."
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Re: Sex before marriage

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sphairos wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:25 pm
Gwi wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:20 pm
sphairos wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:00 pm

But I am faithful to all of them! We are free people in a free world having free sex -- what is wrong with that?

And what should I do now if I "broke the precepts"?


you will accumulate bad kammå.
For example, being born often broken up,
having children who are prostitutes,
being separated from those you love,
having difficulty controlling lust,
Having parents or siblings who are prostitutes.

Read Khuddakapāṭha Aṭṭhakathā,
what are the consequences
Of breaking the third precept or
what are the blessings of avoiding it.



DN 31
"Gambling, prostitution and drunkenness too,
Dancing, singing, sleeping during the day,
Wandering around at the wrong time, hanging out with
bad friends,
And stinginess destroys a person."
But in the Mahākammavibhaṅga-sutta (MN 136) it is said that righteous people can go to hell, and evil ones can be reborn in heaven.

Nobody knows which kamma you have accumulated. So how do I know that I m going to have bad consequences?

I think you know the difference between right and wrong and what the consequences of your actions will be.
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