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confusedlayman wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:30 pm But jesus is not bodhisattva he was a puthujana ...
in the Pali suttas, the term 'bodhisatta' refers to an unenlightened puthujjana. in other words, both jesus and all bodhisattva are puthujjana
confusedlayman wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:30 pmby the way thanks for suggesting me a activity to do in free time if i go there after final confirmation
you are welcome. it appears you, SteRo, Jesus and Bodhisatva share the same characteristic. the buddha said:
Cunda, it is impossible that one who is himself sunk in the mire should pull out another who is sunk in the mire.

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i hope you going to Israel to learn computing or electronic surveillance. but if you are going to the land of self-tribal-cherishing to learn the amoral Mahayana, that is a strange thing i have ever heard :mrgreen:
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Mr Man wrote:I wouldn't take the exceptions to the rule as an endorsement of violent self-defence.
Whose doing that?

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confusedlayman wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:36 am after covid, i might be going to some country like israel and live for sometime where all citizens are recommended to own their own gun ..
Its not wise to go to a country if you have wrong views about that country, its culture, its laws and its people.
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DooDoot wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:29 pm
confusedlayman wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:36 am after covid, i might be going to some country like israel and live for sometime where all citizens are recommended to own their own gun ..
Its not wise to go to a country if you have wrong views about that country, its culture, its laws and its people.
But how could he better gain right views about that country, its culture, its laws and people, than by going to that country?
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I found these images when I was a monk, and thought they were interesting and provocative.
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perkele wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:43 pm But how could he better gain right views about that country, its culture, its laws and people, than by going to that country?
Research the internet about Israel gun ownership. Before you travel to any foreign country, you should research many things.
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JamesTheGiant wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:52 pm I found these images when I was a monk, and thought they were interesting and provocative.
No doubt, for some, owning, carrying, using a weapon calms the mind.
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DooDoot wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:51 pm if you are going to the land of self-tribal-cherishing to learn the amoral Mahayana, that is a strange thing i have ever heard :mrgreen:
What is it amoral that you are referring to ?
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Well I'm joining the army reserve so my karma will only go downhill from here.🙄
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bodom wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:55 pm
Mr Man wrote:I wouldn't take the exceptions to the rule as an endorsement of violent self-defence.
Whose doing that?

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I don't know but in my opinion it isn't.
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sentinel wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:25 am What is it amoral that you are referring to ?
Non-conceptuality. Non-duality. Suspending judgments of 'good' & 'evil'. Attempting to abandon thought rather than abandoning craving.
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DooDoot wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:17 am
sentinel wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:25 am What is it amoral that you are referring to ?
Non-conceptuality. Non-duality. Suspending judgments of 'good' & 'evil' while engaging in sexual misconduct with naive students. Attempting to abandon thought rather than abandoning craving.
Ah...but that isnt mahayana if i am not mistaken . That was one person having wrong action and affected the whole community . I have known many mahayana practioners whom are very stricts in vinaya though and aims at eliminating defilements . And they do explains that their cultivation establishes on learning the four noble truth and eight fold path as their foundation . However , i hope this is not to mix up with Theravada position in explaining the Buddha teachings in its entirety .
Anyway , i am not going to fall into wrong speech mocking at people as i gradually understand the dhamma now .

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Ceisiwr wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:35 pm From our inalienable human rights.
Let's agree that it's our inalienable human right to have access to breathable air. And yet industrial pollution exist, and people die of it.

I suspect that reification of human concepts is no match against reality, sorry.
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JamesTheGiant wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:52 pm I found these images when I was a monk, and thought they were interesting and provocative.
Two additional slogans in what I think is a similar vein:

"SHOUTING: A LOUDER WAY TO BE QUIET."

"Beef: It's made of vegetables, so it's vegan friendly!"
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Bimbisara wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:08 pm
Ceisiwr wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:35 pm From our inalienable human rights.
Let's agree that it's our inalienable human right to have access to breathable air. And yet industrial pollution exist, and people die of it.

I suspect that reification of human concepts is no match against reality, sorry.
Breathable air isn't a human right, nor is food or water.
Paññaṃ nappamajjeyya, saccamanurakkheyya, cāgamanubrūheyya, santimeva so sikkheyyā’ti

“One should not neglect wisdom, should preserve truth, cultivate relinquishment and train for peace.”

Dhātuvibhaṅga Sutta
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