AliochaKaramazov wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:09 am
Greetings to all,
I present my respectul salutations to the members of the Saṃgha
As I wished to elucidate a specific matter in terms of right livelihood (which may shine some light on other matters), I appreciate being able to ask the following question :
Does taking eggs from chicken constitute a breach of the second precept ?
I have read at least two background stories revolving around unwholesome results due to taking eggs from chicken (one seemed to be a story to comment a Dhammapada verse and another of which I couldn’t find the actual reference to be found in the suttas) and as I’ve had the chance of having an exchange with a Venerable bhikkhu who thinks it isn’t an issue to take eggs based on the suttas, I’d greatly appreciate learning more on this matter in order to deepen my understanding on what is proper and what isn’t
I thank you for reading me,
Wishing you all well,
With mettā
Asked the Venerable Sangha here. (Sadhu, good householder, a praiseworthy kind of approach) May it be considered as been given leave here to answer, by the Venerables, as having taken leave here (not given, actually) . May it be corrected by them if wrong or not good explained.
(good householder may excuse that good ways, he seems to be used to, aren't that usually here, but good to help out here in this regard and continue like-a-like.)
It's good to follow the most simple way, as it is thought like that to act best for one: "Abstaining taking from what isn't given.", good householder.
If not enough power of argument, one may consider also not taking life and not taking away the truths in addition to act proper.
Everybody can be left alone with simply that and never a fault to take it in all cases most serious in accordiance with ones individual stage. At least the Path is layed out to arrive even at Adhisīla, not taking on even given, when touched.
Yet, of course, it could be that there is someone wishing to help out a hen as welk as a it's child for best prosperity, taking on a matter of generosity by such. Yet, even this could bring one into troubles if well meant but the receiver not happy with it, might feel abused.
Much joy in growing by figure out how simple this Dhamma actually would work, and greatest release by simply follow it with much faith at first place, leaving old patterns of complicated thinking and inhosnesty behind, getting free of indoxication reflecting the truth of this circle of birth and death, for an effort to leave it in best way behind.
(Good also to avoid association with what ever people, not speak of "Ven." (if so), seeing not problems by taking, and giving encouragements toward harm).
In regard of the side-discussion here, Atma once wrong on a lay womans question (in Vegan-dress) "Do we Buddhists have the right to take away from animals", but in German:
Buddhismus und Ernährung, making path maybe more understandable as not a matter to rest anywhere in this wheel of suffering inhonestly.