Can We Hear Sound in Jhāna?

[pitithefool]

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Personally, I translate it: "separating oneself from objects of sensual pleasures".
But that's my take.

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I think that makes sense. I really feel that the whole point of jhana is to happiness that doesn't depend on sense pleasures rather than anything else. A happiness that's more reliable and can quell the thirst of the mind more thoroughly and more consistently than sense pleasures can.

[ToVincent]

I really feel that the whole point of jhana is to happiness that doesn't depend on sense pleasures rather than anything else. A happiness that's more reliable and can quell the thirst of the mind more thoroughly and more consistently than sense pleasures can.

I could not agree more.
Something different than on a purely moral sense - more like the only way to reach higher and finer states.
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[pitithefool]

I really feel that the whole point of jhana is to happiness that doesn't depend on sense pleasures rather than anything else. A happiness that's more reliable and can quell the thirst of the mind more thoroughly and more consistently than sense pleasures can.

I could not agree more.
Something different than on a purely moral sense - more like the only way to reach higher and finer states.
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Indeed

[BrokenBones]

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Personally, I translate it: "separating oneself from objects of sensual pleasures".
But that's my take.

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I think that makes sense. I really feel that the whole point of jhana is to happiness that doesn't depend on sense pleasures rather than anything else. A happiness that's more reliable and can quell the thirst of the mind more thoroughly and more consistently than sense pleasures can.

Absolutely spot on. A total cutting off of sense objects seems a temporary fix that will leave you back at square one when you re-emerge. It's almost like hiding in a room to avoid your problems rather than tackling them head on and finding a more fruitful and pleasurable alternative to grief and desire.

[pitithefool]

Absolutely spot on. A total cutting off of sense objects seems a temporary fix that will leave you back at square one when you re-emerge. It's almost like hiding in a room to avoid your problems rather than tackling them head on and finding a more fruitful and pleasurable alternative to grief and desire.

Awesome! And like ToVincent said, it's like the door out of samsara. If it's practiced wisely, it leads to a place where you don't need to feed any more at all.