Perhaps the methods for dry insight are like this. Allows a fair reduction of suffering,
Susima sutta says it is not so, in this sutta, all those who became arahants agreed that they at least engaged in the first jhana. Thanissaro's comment on Susima Sutta https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN12_70.htmlbut are you there? Is that enough?
Synopsis of Translator's note:
Pulsar finds practice of the first jhana far more meditator friendly (user friendly) than the dry insight methods described in the commentaries.This discourse is sometimes cited as proof that a meditator can attain Awakening without having practiced the jhanas, simply via dry insight. However a close reading shows that the sutta does not assert this at all. The Arahants involved admit that they have not gained psychic powers due to attainment. They also did not practice the so called 'Arupa samapatthis' to gain arahantship. Taken in the context of the Buddha's many other teachings on Samma Samadhi, there's every reason to believe that the Arahants mentioned in this discourse had reached at least the first jhana before attaining Awakening
Why not practice the right instructions for Four establishments of mindfulness found in the Satipatthana Samyutta, which facilitates the practice of buddhist jhana. When rightly understood the two sets of instructions run parallel to each other, and complement each other.
the reason I did not post a link is because I've read someone complainWhen you mention talks it would be helpful to give links, in case people want to follow them up
It is a 2-hour presentation, a lot of work to summarize the entire video.people post videos, without explaining what is in the video
If you go to Youtube and type in the key words
you get a list of his talks. The satipatthana talks appear as the 3rd to the 4th or 5th in the list. I was referring to the first one.Bhante Sujato
The lockdown has enabled me to spend lots of time with Sujato. I find the talks he gave between the years 2008-2011, most disarming,
a former guitar player, his various experiences of Thailand etc, one drifts into the world of the early years of Sujato. A fascinating experience, it becomes one's own. He is indeed most gifted, Anthony Best, I think he is the best right now.his own explorations, a freshness of expression, discovery of the words of Buddha by a young monk
Thank you Mike for asking. Be well!