I apologize. You’re talking about waking nimittas? Very hard to find and sustain.confusedlayman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:58 amthe I'm not taking about dream jhanaPondera wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:22 am I have returned after months of personal investigation and growth.
I agree that dream jhana is possible. I have had several experiences in dreams where the nimitta is quite clear and it is easy to access. The resulting joy and rapture is palatable.
Regarding waking Jhanas. The following might be useful. I am endured to this sutta.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... el277.html
For “soft jhanas” there is an easy way to induce rapture and pleasure by merely manipulating certain nervous epicentres of the body - such as the bottom of the heart - or the vagus nerve in the neck.
I have had ongoing success cascading through the stages of transcendental dependent origination by merely suspending nervous activity in - for example - the bottom of the heart - or the vagus nerve in the neck.
I have not, however, achieved the kind of “orgasmic bliss” or “power” enabled by a dream like jhanic state - during my waking hours. I continue, none the less, to aspire to a clean and pure brightness of aura - as described in the fourth jhana.
I should rephrase. By suspending tension in the bottom of the heart the force of each heart beat and also the frequency of the heart beat decrease.also, what you mean by nerves in bottom heart? did u physically stop the nerve? why so?
The heart has a feedback loop with the brain (facilitated by a triage of nerves). When the heart relaxes, the mind relaxes. It feels JOY in fact. From JOY we get RAPTURE - and so on.
This is my approach to jhana. I identify four areas where nervous activity can be manipulated and calmed. I generate a series of events which amount to a state of concentration. From concentration, I develop discernment.
My objects of meditation are the four colour kasinas and the wind kasina.