Rapture and Pleasure of the Body

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ToVincent
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Re: Rapture and Pleasure of the Body

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Thao Lah wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:51 pm Rapture and pleasure of the body being discussed here is the rapture and pleasure born of seclusion.
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Viveka has always had the meaning of "seclusion". But it is much more than that.
The gist of Buddhism is discernment (pañña) - pañña in its all encompassing meaning - and viveka is just about getting to that.
Discrimination between the external (the khandhas of nāmarūpa of which we are fed,) and the internal, in satta.

So "seclusion," yes! - but also "detachment". As in "discrimination" and "separation from" one of the two components involved; before you go to "seclusion".

In other words:
Rapture and pleasure of the body, born of discrimination between the external & the internal - separation from the external - and then seclusion in the internal.

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Lexical references:

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PALI
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Viveka [fr.vi+vic]
- detachment, loneliness, separation, seclusion; “singleness” (of heart), discrimination (of thought) [PTS]

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SANSKRIT
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विवेक viveka [act. vivic]
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True knowledge , discretion , right judgement , the faculty of distinguishing and classifying things according to their real properties ChUp.


विविच् vivic [ vi-√ vic ]
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- divide asunder , separate from ŚBr.
- to distinguish , discern , discriminate KaṭhUp. (somewhat contemporary)
- to go asunder , separate AV.


√ विच् vic [linked to vij]
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- to sift , separate (esp. grain from chaff by winnowing) RV. AV.
- to discriminate , discern , judge RV. AV.

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In this world, there are many people acting and yearning for the Mara's world; some for the Brahma's world; and very few for the Unborn.
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