it(mn111) has been discussed elsewhere in forum, that one enters 1st jhana and after exiting 1st jhana one does vipassana then enters 2nd jhana... or what i think it is Sariputta way of doing things, someone who has conduct of an arhant.pitithefool wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:35 amFrom what I can gather, I think it means something like "unimpeded" or something similar. I think it refers specifically to the mind of a meditator while in samadhi in MN 111, being detached from the phenomena, although 10.81 seems to be about the mind of a Tathagata. I think they both do have to do with conduct but as I understand it, mostly on an instrumental level as it relates to samadhi.auto wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:29 pmI didn't check the term 'vimariyādīkatena' which seem to be about conduct. And it is possible that the 'purified mind consciousness..' is about conduct too.pitithefool wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:12 pm I think "purified mind consciousness released from the five senses" here likely means that the mind is purified by the attaining the fourth jhana on that occasion, and that it is descending into emptiness, like in MN 121, not necessarily that the person is a non-returner as we understand it.
I haven't read any commentary on this so I'm just going off of English translations
I think what you are saying is what i said, except not 4th jhana but one needs have attained cessation of perception and feeling(9nth) before have 'purified mind consciousness released from the five senses'