Internal, External and Internal-External
Internal, External and Internal-External
Hi. In the Maha Satipatthana or Satipatthana Sutta, we constantly saw thr word internal, external and internal-externally. Until today, I am not sure what are they? Do they mean literally or is there a hidden meaning to those words?
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Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html"And what is the earth property? The earth property can be either internal or external. What is the internal earth property?}[3] Anything internal, within oneself, that's hard, solid, & sustained [by craving]: head hairs, body hairs, nails, teeth, skin, flesh, tendons, bones, bone marrow, kidneys, heart, liver, membranes, spleen, lungs, large intestines, small intestines, contents of the stomach, feces, or anything else internal, within oneself, that's hard, solid, and sustained: This is called the internal earth property. Now both the internal earth property & the external earth property are simply earth property. And that should be seen as it actually is present with right discernment: 'This is not mine, this is not me, this is not my self.' When one sees it thus as it actually is present with right discernment, one becomes disenchanted with the earth property and makes the earth property fade from the mind.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80yat ... %20objects.In Buddhism, there are six internal sense bases (Pali: ajjhattikāni āyatanāni; also known as, "organs", "gates", "doors", "powers" or "roots"[2]) and six external sense bases (bāhirāni āyatanāni or "sense objects"; also known as vishaya or "domains"[3]).
There are six internal-external (organ-object) saḷāyatana (Pāli; Skt. ṣaḍāyatana), pairs of sense bases:[note 1][note 2]
eye and visible objects[5]
ear and sound
nose and odor
tongue and taste
body and touch
mind[6] and mental objects[7]
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
According to the notes accompanying Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of the Satipatthana Sutta, "external" here means other people.
Note that the distinction is made for all four frames of reference.
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Note that contemplation of the salayatana is one of the "exercises" in the fourth frame of the Satipatthana Sutta.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80yat ... %20objects.In Buddhism, there are six internal sense bases (Pali: ajjhattikāni āyatanāni; also known as, "organs", "gates", "doors", "powers" or "roots"[2]) and six external sense bases (bāhirāni āyatanāni or "sense objects"; also known as vishaya or "domains"[3]).
There are six internal-external (organ-object) saḷāyatana (Pāli; Skt. ṣaḍāyatana), pairs of sense bases:[note 1][note 2]
eye and visible objects[5]
ear and sound
nose and odor
tongue and taste
body and touch
mind[6] and mental objects[7]
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Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
According to the notes accompanying Bhikkhu Bodhi's translation of the Satipatthana Sutta, "external" here means other people.
Note that the distinction is made for all four frames of reference.
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But, the Sutta showsthat The Buddha never ask us to know anyone else body our own body in every breath ???
Note that the distinction is made for all four frames of reference.
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But, the Sutta showsthat The Buddha never ask us to know anyone else body our own body in every breath ???
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Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
You might find it helpful to have a look at some of the previous DW discussions on this topic, eg here:
https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?t=1122
And a related discussion at Stack Exchange:
https://buddhism.stackexchange.com/ques ... 9365#29365
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Re: Internal, External and Internal-External
The way I understand this covers under Cittanupassana.Spiny Norman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:42 amNote that contemplation of the salayatana is one of the "exercises" in the fourth frame of the Satipatthana Sutta.SarathW wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:37 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80yat ... %20objects.In Buddhism, there are six internal sense bases (Pali: ajjhattikāni āyatanāni; also known as, "organs", "gates", "doors", "powers" or "roots"[2]) and six external sense bases (bāhirāni āyatanāni or "sense objects"; also known as vishaya or "domains"[3]).
There are six internal-external (organ-object) saḷāyatana (Pāli; Skt. ṣaḍāyatana), pairs of sense bases:[note 1][note 2]
eye and visible objects[5]
ear and sound
nose and odor
tongue and taste
body and touch
mind[6] and mental objects[7]
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”