Paticca Samuppada and the Paticca Sammupada Dhamma?

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SarathW
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Paticca Samuppada and the Paticca Sammupada Dhamma?

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Paticca Samuppada and the Paticca Sammupada Dhamma?

Paticca Samuppada:
This being, that is;
from the arising of this, that arises;
this not being, that is not;
from the cessation of this, that ceases.

paticca Samuppada Dhamma:
That is: with ignorance as condition, volitional activities come to be; ... with birth as condition, aging-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair come to be. This is the origin of this whole mass of suffering.

But from the complete disappearance and cessation of ignorance, volitional activities cease; ... from the cessation of birth, aging-and-death, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair cease. This is the ceasing of this whole mass of suffering.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .irel.html

There are some mistakes in the conventional interpretation of Paticca Samuppada Dhamma:

Bhava - conventional interpretation - Kama Bhava (Loka), Rupa Bhava, Arupabhava
Bhava - Ven. A's interpretation - Kama Dhatu, Rupa Dhathu, Arupa Dhathu

Upadana - conventional interpretation Kama, Dithi, Atta, Silabbatha upadana seems incorrect.
Upadana - Ven. A's interpretation - Ear clinging, eye clinging etc. ??

Tanha - conventional interpretation - Kama, Bhava Vibhava
Tanha - Ven. A's interpretation - Rupa, Saddha, Gandha, Pottaba, Dhamma Tanha etc.

Vedana - Conventional interpretation - pleasant, unpleasant neutral
Vedana- Ven A's interpretation - Eye feeling, ear feeling etc.


The above argument is put forward by Ven, Alawwe Anomadassi in the following Dhamma talk. (in Sinhalese)

“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
Ontheway
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Re: Paticca Samuppada and the Paticca Sammupada Dhamma?

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His new interpretation was unnecessary.

Did he studied Abhidhamma Pitaka?

If he studied at least the Dhammasaṅgaṇī, he wouldn't be confused at those various concepts and methods of classification.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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SarathW
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Re: Paticca Samuppada and the Paticca Sammupada Dhamma?

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Ontheway wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:40 am His new interpretation was unnecessary.

Did he studied Abhidhamma Pitaka?

If he studied at least the Dhammasaṅgaṇī, he wouldn't be confused about those various concepts and methods of classification.
As far as I understood he knows Abhidhamma.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”
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