Three and half years old Sri Lankan child talk about Dependent origination.

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Re: Three and half years old Sri Lankan child talk about Dependent origination.

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Lal wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 2:16 pm I just came across the following video:



This is the same video where the little girl says she is three-and-a-half years old. This video was published on Sep 21, 2018. Click on "youtube" at the bottom right-hand to see the published date.
- If this publication is close to when the video was recorded, then she must be 5 1/2 years old now.

In any case, it is fruitless to debate how old she is.
- If someone can truly understand what she is saying in these videos, they would realize that even an adult cannot express such deep Dhamma.
- Unfortunately, not many people have enough understanding of pure Buddha Dhamma.
what she say in video?
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what she say in video?
She talks about a couple of different things.

One is about Sakkaya ditthi ("identity view"). That explanation is about the following verse in MN 109. The translation below from Sutta Central:
"[html]https://suttacentral.net/mn109/en/sujato[/html]":

"But sir, how does identity view come about?”

“It’s when an uneducated ordinary person has not seen the noble ones, and is neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the noble ones. They’ve not seen good persons, and are neither skilled nor trained in the teaching of the good persons. They regard form as self, self as having form, form in self, or self in form. "
- That is what she explains on that topic.

She asks her father: "If this body is truly yours, wouldn't you be able to control it? You should be able to stop it from getting old, make sure it does not get sick, etc"

I don't have time to explain further this video or any other video of her. My posts on the other thread discuss these concepts in detail. For example, I discussed Sakkaya ditthi in a few posts recently. That was an introduction. It will be discussed in more detail in upcoming posts.
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I listen to the following video.
It appears to me this child has been brainwashed by her father.
She attempted to explain Sakkaya Ditthi by comparing twins brought up with different upbringing. (one was looked inside a room)
It appears to be the wrong understanding of Sakkaya Ditthi. (unless I am wrong)
This child is extremely intelligent for her age for the ability to learn.
I have not to doubt about this.
However, I just wonder whether we should teach this Dhamma at such a young age, especially we ourselves do not know what we are talking about.
Unfortunately, now the comments are turned off. In a way, it is good for the benefit of the child but bad for the listeners and her father as they will not have the opportunity to learn true Dhamma.
I hope Lal will make his comments on this.
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It appears to be the wrong understanding of Sakkaya Ditthi. (unless I am wrong)
Yes. You are wrong.

If you know the correct version, please present it (in your own words). Just saying someone is wrong based just on your "hunch" is of no benefit to anyone or to you.
- You have been discussing these things in this forum for many years. Please go back and see whether you have made any improvement in your comments/understanding. You keep asking the same questions, many years later!

What is sakkaya ditthi as you understand it? Please use your own words. Don't quote others. If anyone else can explain it, they can do that themselves in their own words.
- If you don't know, don't just say the other person is wrong. You need to point out WHY that person is wrong. Exactly what is wrong with the statements of that child? Just because you don't understand does not mean it is wrong.
- I am not going to respond unless an explanation is given.
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In this video, Sachi says that the way to stop any disease is to extend Metta to everyone.
According to her disease are a result of anger.
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Very interesting Dhamma discussion about the story of the Four Messengers Bodhisatva encountered before he left the palace.
She argues that the Four Messanger story is just a story of Parmattha Sacca.
According to her, there is no need for Bodhisatva to learn about sickness and death, etc from his coachman.
She is under the impression that Bodhisatva learns these by observing his own body.
By the way, you can listen to her pre-Dhamma chanting by just clinking the following link.

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SarathW wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 4:38 am

In this video, Sachi says that the way to stop any disease is to extend Metta to everyone.
According to her disease are a result of anger.
Metta itself is a suffering and thorn as it originates and ends leaving people who depend on them feel like losers when metta ends
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Metta itself is a suffering and thorn as it originates and ends leaving people who depend on them feel like losers when metta ends
It appears you are doing something wrong here.
In my experience, Metta always works.
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SarathW wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:43 am
Metta itself is a suffering and thorn as it originates and ends leaving people who depend on them feel like losers when metta ends
It appears you are doing something wrong here.
In my experience, Metta always works.
Metta might work but it has nothing to do with 8 fold path
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confusedlayman wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:47 am
SarathW wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:43 am
Metta itself is a suffering and thorn as it originates and ends leaving people who depend on them feel like losers when metta ends
It appears you are doing something wrong here.
In my experience, Metta always works.
Metta might work but it has nothing to do with 8 fold path
Samma Sankappa (second limb of Eightfold Path) includes Brahamavihara. (include Metta)
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SarathW wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:55 am
confusedlayman wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:47 am
SarathW wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 8:43 am
It appears you are doing something wrong here.
In my experience, Metta always works.
Metta might work but it has nothing to do with 8 fold path
Samma Sankappa (second limb of Eightfold Path) includes Brahamavihara. (include Metta)
Are you talking mundane 8fp or supermundane?
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Are you talking mundane 8fp or supermundane?
In my opinion, this applies to both mundane and supermundane.
The only difference is when in Supermundane you do not take it as I, me, and myself.
For instance Buddha had lot of Metta and Karuna for people.
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confusedlayman wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 6:37 am
SarathW wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 4:38 am

In this video, Sachi says that the way to stop any disease is to extend Metta to everyone.
According to her disease are a result of anger.
Metta itself is a suffering and thorn as it originates and ends leaving people who depend on them feel like losers when metta ends
Agreed. Though Metta is a necessary Parami to be perfected in the quest of Arahatship, still it has defilement and unsatisfactories in it.
Hiriottappasampannā,
sukkadhammasamāhitā;
Santo sappurisā loke,
devadhammāti vuccare.

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