Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
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Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
We should avoid violence at all costs.
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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
Okay .. and why is it news? Because they are Buddhists and supposed to suffer silently?Lucas Oliveira wrote: ↑Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
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Humans are humans and from time to time violence will break out. As long as it is brought under control quickly .. it is okay ..

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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
This is facile.
What if the cost was the destruction of the planet? Or the human race? Or the environment?
'At all costs' is idealistic, and unlikely to hold up in the real world, where trade-offs are the name of the game.
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destruction of the human race is violence, so avoiding violence at all costs imply not to destruct human race.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:05 amThis is facile.
What if the cost was the destruction of the planet? Or the human race? Or the environment?
'At all costs' is idealistic, and unlikely to hold up in the real world, where trade-offs are the name of the game.
Regarding environment / planet : where do you see avoiding violence would have such counterpart ?
On a buddhist forum, i am not sure this is "facile" to write buddhist are violent. Your answer seems to prove it is not.
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From my french newspaper
The nationalist cinghalais Mahinda Rajapakse is allied now with Bodu Bala Sena (BBS), un extrem bouddhism (??) party created in 2012.
The secretary Bhikku (!!) Galagoda-atte gnanasara say the government is scare to loose his popularity if they attack us.
Sound so sad
The nationalist cinghalais Mahinda Rajapakse is allied now with Bodu Bala Sena (BBS), un extrem bouddhism (??) party created in 2012.
The secretary Bhikku (!!) Galagoda-atte gnanasara say the government is scare to loose his popularity if they attack us.
Sound so sad

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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
Are you saying that there is no scenario where violence is a price worth paying for the purpose of preventing a greater violence?pyluyten wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:10 pmdestruction of the human race is violence, so avoiding violence at all costs imply not to destruct human race.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:05 amThis is facile.
What if the cost was the destruction of the planet? Or the human race? Or the environment?
'At all costs' is idealistic, and unlikely to hold up in the real world, where trade-offs are the name of the game.
Regarding environment / planet : where do you see avoiding violence would have such counterpart ?
On a buddhist forum, i am not sure this is "facile" to write buddhist are violent. Your answer seems to prove it is not.
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
Its significant because for the last few decades Sri Lanka was victim of one of the worst civil wars in which Tamil Tigers fought brutally for an independent state for the Tamil people.
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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
in this specific thread, violence is not a price worth paying.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:43 pm Are you saying that there is no scenario where violence is a price worth paying for the purpose of preventing a greater violence?
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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
It seems you're saying something different from Virgo. You have qualified his statement. Anyway, it still doesn't address the scenario where violence might be done to prevent a greater violence. This thread is hardly likely to be the circumstance where that is played out - far more likely is a situation where, for example, the police need to shoot a violent, hostage taking maniac to prevent him from killing many people. Do you think 'avoiding violence at all costs' would lead to a good outcome in that scenario?pyluyten wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:20 pmin this specific thread, violence is not a price worth paying.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:43 pm Are you saying that there is no scenario where violence is a price worth paying for the purpose of preventing a greater violence?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta
'Dust thou art, and unto dust thou shalt return.' - Genesis 3:19
'Some fart freely, some try to hide and silence it. Which one is correct?' - Saegnapha
Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
... and then he gets reborn to "finish the business", that's how such attacks keep happening.Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:49 ama situation where, for example, the police need to shoot a violent, hostage taking maniac to prevent him from killing many people.

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Re: Sri Lanka declares state of emergency in wake of communal violence
Such scenarios are inavoidable. But I think it would be a mistake to classify those actions where violence is attempted to be quelled with violence, as "compassionate" or "just" or "righteous" or "good".Pseudobabble wrote: ↑Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:43 pmAre you saying that there is no scenario where violence is a price worth paying for the purpose of preventing a greater violence?
Because this is the real issue here, isn't it? How to justify violent action and interpret it as (metaphysically) just, righteous, good, compassionate.
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Unfortunately, some Sri Lankans never learn from the past mistakes.
There should be some invisible power behind this violence.
How is Sri Lankans repeating a similar thing what happened in Maynamar?
There should be some invisible power behind this violence.
How is Sri Lankans repeating a similar thing what happened in Maynamar?
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Karma, DO ...
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