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Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:34 pm
by robertk
the liberal press got rather twisted about this.
my favorite is Navarro who is on CNN sometimes
https://www.google.fr/amp/amp.dailycall ... 3-animals/
Screen Shot Ana Navarro (CNN: April 30, 2018)
Regular CNN commentator Ana Navarro joined the crowd attacking President Donald Trump for referring to MS-13 gang members as “animals,” apparently forgetting that she had used the same terminology to attack Trump during the 2016 campaign.

Just after the release of the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape, Navarro tweeted her disgust with then candidate Trump.

“Should Donald Trump drop out of the race? Yes,” she tweeted Oct. 10, 2016. “He should drop out of the human race. He is an animal. Apologies to animals.
Runner up has to be from the Washington Post

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Jennifer Rubin, the self-described “conservative blogger” at the Washington Post, called President Trump’s comments “disgusting.”


But in August of 2017, Rubin also compared the president to an “animal” in an opinion piece that appeared in the Chicago Tribune.

“Only 24 hours after he read a serious speech off a teleprompter committing to send more young men and women to fight in Afghanistan, President Donald Trump reverted to form, delivering a rambling, rage-filled, 77-minute harangue that was alternately defensive, angry, accusatory and just plain weird. Like a trapped animal, he lashed out in every direction, trying unsuccessfully to draw blood.


It seems using a simile("like a trapped animal" ) is quite ok - it is metaphors that cross the line..

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 7:57 pm
by DooDoot
lyndon taylor wrote: Fri May 18, 2018 7:04 pmTrump's not smart enough to know that humans are animals, he didn't learn much in school!!
Trump's not smart enough to know that homo sapiens that engage in wanton violence like he does are also animals, he didn't learn much in Dhamma school!! Trump is part of a "gang".
Sooner, I say, would that blind turtle, coming to the surface once every hundred years, insert its neck into that yoke with a single hole than the fool who has gone once to the nether world would regain the human state. For what reason? Because here, bhikkhus, there is no conduct guided by the Dhamma, no righteous conduct, no wholesome activity, no meritorious activity. Here there prevails mutual devouring, the devouring of the weak.

https://suttacentral.net/sn56.47/en/bodhi
And what is the diversity in fermentations? There are fermentations that lead to hell, those that lead to the animal womb, those that lead to the realm of the hungry shades, those that lead to the human world, those that lead to the world of the devas. This is called the diversity in fermentations.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:37 am
by LuisR
Ah man I sometimes hate being Latino. We are looked at as such trash.

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 1:12 am
by retrofuturist

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:53 am
by LuisR
:cry:

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 12:46 pm
by pulga
I don't know how much of it is from President Trump and how much of it is from Jeff Sessions who seems to have a zeal against all illegal immigration, but the Trump administration does seem to be too hard on undocumented immigrants these days. Trump the candidate vowed that he would target only violent illegal immigrants, while Sessions the Attorney General is going after all illegal immigrants.

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 2:00 pm
by Pseudobabble
pulga wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:46 pm I don't know how much of it is from President Trump and how much of it is from Jeff Sessions who seems to have a zeal against all illegal immigration, but the Trump administration does seem to be too hard on undocumented immigrants these days. Trump the candidate vowed that he would target only violent illegal immigrants, while Sessions the Attorney General is going after all illegal immigrants.
I just don't understand the confusion that seems to reign in America regarding illegal immigration.

Either its legal, or it isn't. If it isn't, then apply the law. If it isn't, but we want it to be, change the law.

Surely that's all there is to it.

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:22 pm
by pulga
Pseudobabble wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 2:00 pm

Either its legal, or it isn't. If it isn't, then apply the law. If it isn't, but we want it to be, change the law.
The sheer size of the problem and the proposed solutions are daunting. In 1986 an amnesty was signed into law by Ronald Reagan, giving two to three million illegal immigrants citizenship. Though with chain migration the impact on the U.S. population was much greater. Some estimate that if amnesty were given again today the impact would be an additional 60 million foreign Hispanics moving to the U.S., many with little or no education or money. Many Democrats want such a demographic shift because most of them would vote for their party. President Trump is tying his DACA proposal -- which is a sort of limited amnesty -- to an end of chain migration which in some respects is more important than the building of the wall.

I have to admit that many conservatives are just too mean-spirited to approach the problem in a nuanced way. There is a human element that has to be taken into account. I think President Trump leans towards dealing with the problem humanely, though a good portion of his base is the mean-spirited type.

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:35 pm
by retrofuturist
Greetings pulga,

I thought his "12 years to citizenship" DACA plan (I forgot what it was called exactly) was very fair and generous.

Democrats voted against it, because I don't really think they want the problem solved.

Metta,
Paul. :)

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:02 am
by pulga
retrofuturist wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 10:35 pm
Democrats voted against it, because I don't really think they want the problem solved.
Had the DACA dilemma been resolved it would have been a huge political win for the President, something seemingly intolerable to the Democrats these days. Hopefully their cynicism didn't go unnoticed to many of the Hispanics who would have benefited from what President Trump had to offer.

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 12:56 am
by Kamran
Two US Citizens detained for Speaking Spanish


Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 4:24 pm
by Mr Man
And
Trump: NFL kneelers 'maybe shouldn't be in country'
President Donald Trump has praised an NFL ban on players kneeling during the national anthem, questioning whether such protesters should stay in the US.

He said: "You have to stand proudly for the national anthem or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there, maybe you shouldn't be in the country."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44232979

Re: Yesterday Trump Called Latinos "Animals"

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:45 am
by Pseudobabble
Mr Man wrote: Fri May 25, 2018 4:24 pm And
Trump: NFL kneelers 'maybe shouldn't be in country'
President Donald Trump has praised an NFL ban on players kneeling during the national anthem, questioning whether such protesters should stay in the US.

He said: "You have to stand proudly for the national anthem or you shouldn't be playing, you shouldn't be there, maybe you shouldn't be in the country."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44232979
Is there a point here?