Is coder for a gambling-website-creator company a wrong livelihood?

[lavantien]

Hi,

Currently I'm doing intern as a coder, this company mostly develop betting websites for other countries.

I'm aware of a story about Sotapanna assist her husband in hunting. But I'm afraid that my job may not appropriate to be compared to that story.
I also know betting is unskillful and manage a betting platform is obviously a wrong livelihood.

I'm just not sure about whether a coder who participate in the process of creating betting platforms can be considered as a not-so-wrong livelihood. Finding developer job in my place is pretty hard, especially for undergraduate like me, so I just want make sure that I'm still stay firmly on the Path.

Please let me know your opinion.

[DooDoot]

My opinion is doing an internship is OK because: (i) you do not own the business; (ii) you do not design the gambling software ideas; (iii) the internship is only temporary; and (iv) the skills & experience you are developing & acquiring are not inherently related to the gambling industry. But personally I would not do the job permanently (because this will make you dispirited). However, doing the job for a period of time to gain sufficient & credible experience is OK to me because (as I suggested) the skill you are developing is not inherently related to gambling. For a short time, you are gaining experience with the aim/intention to apply your skills to more favorable industries in the future.

[Alīno]

Hi,

Currently I'm doing intern as a coder, this company mostly develop betting websites for other countries.

I'm aware of a story about Sotapanna assist her husband in hunting. But I'm afraid that my job may not appropriate to be compared to that story.
I also know betting is unskillful and manage a betting platform is obviously a wrong livelihood.

I'm just not sure about whether a coder who participate in the process of creating betting platforms can be considered as a not-so-wrong livelihood. Finding developer job in my place is pretty hard, especially for undergraduate like me, so I just want make sure that I'm still stay firmly on the Path.

Please let me know your opinion.

You dont break any precept so you dont generate kamma of going in lower realms.
So if while you work on this job your mind feels harmony and peace, you can practice meditation, mind is not agitated by your job - then it's good livelihood. All depends on your mind state. If there is remorse, etc?

As said Ajahn Sona, even an Abbot of Buddhist monastery can live in wrong livelihood, because he have so many responsabilities and duties to do, that he can't practice at peace...

[santa100]

Currently I'm doing intern as a coder, this company mostly develop betting websites for other countries.

There should be plenty of "content-neutral" software functions like file system/database maintenance/backup, nightly batch operations, software patches/securities, etc. that you could try asking them to assign to you instead of functions that directly involves writing betting algorithm. And the benefit doesn't just stop at staying on the Path, since those functions are not subject-domain-specific (ie. gambling/betting algos and logic), they're totally transferrable once your internship is over and you can use the skillset for other industries: healthcare, education, manufacturing, etc.

[dharmacorps]

If you are an unpaid intern, then it isn't "livelihood". So this doesn't apply here.

[retrofuturist]

Greetings,

My opinion is doing an internship is OK because: (i) you do not own the business; (ii) you do not design the gambling software ideas; (iii) the internship is only temporary; and (iv) the skills & experience you are developing & acquiring are not inherently related to the gambling industry. But personally I would not do the job permanently (because this will make you dispirited). However, doing the job for a period of time to gain sufficient & credible experience is OK to me because (as I suggested) the skill you are developing is not inherently related to gambling. For a short time, you are gaining experience with the aim/intention to apply your skills to more favorable industries in the future.

I agree 100%.

Metta,
Paul.

[confusedlayman]

Hi,

Currently I'm doing intern as a coder, this company mostly develop betting websites for other countries.

I'm aware of a story about Sotapanna assist her husband in hunting. But I'm afraid that my job may not appropriate to be compared to that story.
I also know betting is unskillful and manage a betting platform is obviously a wrong livelihood.

I'm just not sure about whether a coder who participate in the process of creating betting platforms can be considered as a not-so-wrong livelihood. Finding developer job in my place is pretty hard, especially for undergraduate like me, so I just want make sure that I'm still stay firmly on the Path.

Please let me know your opinion.

I dont think so but im not sure. I am also a online gambler just do for pocket money not serious gambler and i use stats to win daily 200£ approx it helps me in life but i know what horse will win so its not blind guess and punter lose or earn is their karma and result of decision but coder has nothing to do even if u dont code punters keep on punting and also ur coding what exact software? Does software show wrong stats to steal money from punters?

[lavantien]

@dharmacorps: I'm a paid intern.

I dont think so but im not sure. I am also a online gambler just do for pocket money not serious gambler and i use stats to win daily 200£ approx it helps me in life but i know what horse will win so its not blind guess and punter lose or earn is their karma and result of decision but coder has nothing to do even if u dont code punters keep on punting and also ur coding what exact software? Does software show wrong stats to steal money from punters?

I have no idea how their algorithms work, I also don't know whether they (betting systems) manipulate the odds before showing to player or not. I don't want to involve in these thing I just want to sustain my practice. I'm currently fixing bugs and doing some User Interface relate stuffs.

I don't think gambler is super unskillful when players research properly, have some statistical knowledge and apply them to support their life, in case of yours. Hence the word "skillful"

[confusedlayman]

@dharmacorps: I'm a paid intern.

I dont think so but im not sure. I am also a online gambler just do for pocket money not serious gambler and i use stats to win daily 200£ approx it helps me in life but i know what horse will win so its not blind guess and punter lose or earn is their karma and result of decision but coder has nothing to do even if u dont code punters keep on punting and also ur coding what exact software? Does software show wrong stats to steal money from punters?

I have no idea how their algorithms work, I also don't know whether they (betting systems) manipulate the odds before showing to player or not. I don't want to involve in these thing I just want to sustain my practice. I'm currently fixing bugs and doing some User Interface relate stuffs.

I don't think gambler is super unskillful when players research properly, have some statistical knowledge and apply them to support their life, in case of yours. Hence the word "skillful"

I think entire ;life if lead unconsciously actions without knowing is gamble of life just saying ...

[Gwi]

Hi,

Currently I'm doing intern as a coder, this company mostly develop betting websites for other countries.

I'm aware of a story about Sotapanna assist her husband in hunting. But I'm afraid that my job may not appropriate to be compared to that story.
I also know betting is unskillful and manage a betting platform is obviously a wrong livelihood.

I'm just not sure about whether a coder who participate in the process of creating betting platforms can be considered as a not-so-wrong livelihood. Finding developer job in my place is pretty hard, especially for undergraduate like me, so I just want make sure that I'm still stay firmly on the Path.

Please let me know your opinion.

The story of the sotāpannå, is about
"a wife who is obedient to her husband".

You should find another job.
Not breaking the precepts,
but why should help someone to
make a gamble?