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Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:32 am
by BasementBuddhist
I have a best friend who means the world to me. We are basically twins. We know each other inside and out. We can speak without speaking, and read each others minds. At times it seems, we are one person in two bodies.

I am growing more and more committed to the practice, meditating for hours a day and maintaining mindfulness as much as possible.

I've always been a very boisterous, emotional, passionate person, and this and shared anxieties and "vibes" are what really bond my friend and i. I can feel these things changing in me to a degree.

I'm scared that as the Buddha's teaching grows in me and the defilements lesson, this friend and I will grow apart. I'm almost afraid to go further into the practice because of this thought.

Is there a hope for having both the things that I want? Is this fear unfounded? Obviously the dynamic will shift as I change, that is a given. Have you guys lost friends because of the practice? Was it worth it? Any advice or ideas? Any thoughts?

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:45 am
by Ceisiwr
BasementBuddhist wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:32 am I have a best friend who means the world to me. We are basically twins. We know each other inside and out. We can speak without speaking, and read each others minds. At times it seems, we are one person in two bodies.

I am growing more and more committed to the practice, meditating for hours a day and maintaining mindfulness as much as possible.

I've always been a very boisterous, emotional, passionate person, and this and shared anxieties and "vibes" are what really bond my friend and i. I can feel these things changing in me to a degree.

I'm scared that as the Buddha's teaching grows in me and the defilements lesson, this friend and I will grow apart. I'm almost afraid to go further into the practice because of this thought.

Is there a hope for having both the things that I want? Is this fear unfounded? Obviously the dynamic will shift as I change, that is a given. Have you guys lost friends because of the practice? Was it worth it? Any advice or ideas? Any thoughts?
I have a close friend like that too. I also had similar concerns in the past. All I can say is that we are still close friends today. The Dhamma didn’t drive me apart from her. It did play its part in stopping me making new close friendships though.

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:03 am
by Inedible
As Jed McKenna wrote, this is why Arjuna threw down his weapons and refused to act. Everyone can agree that getting rid of the bad is useful and good. The problem is everything must go. You can't pick which things to let go of. When people see that even the good must go it comes as a shock. But until you personally get to that point you can't move past it.

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:36 am
by BasementBuddhist
Thank you, to the both of you. These are both really helpful answers. Intellectually I know what will be, will of course be. We're all just human though.

Of course the one thing I won't give up is the one thing that will keep me from achieving the goal. Grrr. I guess we will see when comes the day I am standing on the edge of the existential cliff.

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:42 am
by SteRo
BasementBuddhist wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:32 am I'm scared that as the Buddha's teaching grows in me and the defilements lesson, this friend and I will grow apart. I'm almost afraid to go further into the practice because of this thought.
Why did you get involved in buddhism in the first place? What are your conflicting goals? On the one hand this friendship and on the other hand ... what?

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:55 am
by simsapa
Is there a hope for having both the things that I want?
Can you hold onto something and let go of it at the same time?

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:59 am
by confusedlayman
holding on to friend will not save u from lower realms, rebirth or give u insight... but holding to buddhism will save u.. u r just attached to idea of friends because in reality they are just elements or powders or nano element and so on... u are attached to your idea..

Re: Relationships and the things we let go of

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:48 am
by Ionbuddy
Hm... Why not just simply practice metta and mudita towards this person?

If they leave, assuming you've been keeping your mind and actions pure, then you have nothing to feel bad about.
If you leave, assuming this person is being abusive to you in some way, then you still have nothing to feel bad about.
If you leave, assuming this person is trying to get you to do something evil... I think you get the idea.

A friendship which is built on mutual respect has nothing to fear.