“Sir, this is not my only incredible and amazing quality; there is another. I had an only son called Nanda who I loved dearly. The rulers forcibly abducted him on some pretext and had him executed. But I can’t recall getting upset when my boy was under arrest or being arrested, imprisoned or being put in prison, killed or being killed.”
“It’s incredible, Nanda’s Mother, it’s amazing that you purify even the arising of a thought.”
“Sir, this is not my only incredible and amazing quality; there is another. When my husband passed away he was reborn in one of the realms of spirits. He revealed to me his previous life-form. But I can’t recall getting upset on that account.”
“It’s incredible, Nanda’s Mother, it’s amazing that you purify even the arising of a thought.”
“Sir, this is not my only incredible and amazing quality; there is another. Ever since we were both young, and I was given in marriage to my husband, I can’t recall betraying him even in thought, still less in deed.”
“It’s incredible, Nanda’s Mother, it’s amazing that you purify even the arising of a thought.”
“Sir, this is not my only incredible and amazing quality; there is another. Ever since I declared myself a lay follower, I can’t recall deliberately breaking any precept.” Nanda’s Mother (AN7.53)
Now at that time the householder Nakula’s father was sick, suffering, gravely ill. Then the housewife Nakula’s mother said to him:
“Householder, don’t pass away with concerns. Such concern is suffering, and it’s criticized by the Buddha. Householder, you might think: ‘When I’ve gone, the housewife Nakula’s mother won’t be able to provide for the children and keep up the household carpets.’ But you should not see it like this. I’m skilled at spinning cotton and carding wool. I’m able to provide for the children and keep up the household carpets. So householder, don’t pass away with concerns …
Householder, you might think: ‘When I’ve gone, the housewife Nakula’s mother will take another husband.’ But you should not see it like this. Both you and I know that we have remained celibate while at home for the past sixteen years. So householder, don’t pass away with concerns …
Householder, you might think: ‘When I’ve gone, the housewife Nakula’s mother won’t want to see the Buddha and his Saṅgha of mendicants.’ But you should not see it like this. When you’ve gone, I’ll want to see the Buddha and his mendicant Saṅgha even more. So householder, don’t pass away with concerns … Nakula’s Father (AN6.16)
They were the role models of ancient Buddhist women.
Will they be the role models of future Buddhist women?
Eko Care wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:16 pm
They were the role models of ancient Buddhist women.
Will they be the role models of future Buddhist women?
They probably attained the noble path after they finished with their instinctual lustful reproductive duties; which probably occurred prior to them learning about the Buddha-Dhamma.
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
They probably attained the noble path after they finished with their instinctual lustful reproductive duties; which probably occurred prior to them learning about the Buddha-Dhamma.
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
Doubt that. Visakha was a sotapanna at age 7. and got married and reproduced many times throughout her life far beyond the age of 7.
"Do not have blind faith, but also no blind criticism" - the 14th Dalai Lama
"The Blessed One has set in motion the unexcelled Wheel of Dhamma that cannot be stopped by brahmins, devas, Maras, Brahmas or anyone in the cosmos." -Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
TRobinson465 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:54 pm
Doubt that. Visakha was a sotapanna at age 7. and got married and reproduced many times throughout her life far beyond the age of 7.
According to what? Fables in commentaries? What evidence can you provide to support your absence of doubt? Does this absence of doubt qualify for stream-entry? Why would a 7 year old stream-enterer not become an arahant by 18 years old?
Eko Care wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:16 pm
Will they be the role models of future Buddhist women?
Possibly we can have a category called "child stream-enterer" on internet dating sites or with Thai mail order brides.
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There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
TRobinson465 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:54 pm
Doubt that. Visakha was a sotapanna at age 7. and got married and reproduced many times throughout her life far beyond the age of 7.
According to what? Fables in commentaries? What evidence can you provide to support your absence of doubt? Does this absence of doubt qualify for stream-entry? Why would a 7 year old stream-enterer not become an arahant by 18 years old?
Im not gonna sit there and argue with you if you just pick and choose which evidence is "real" anyways. Especially when u yourself are making baseless claims like 7 yo stream enterers should become arahants by 18 (as if it was somehow logical that the legal adulthood age that was artificially selected in some western countries over the past century is some kind of baseline)
"Do not have blind faith, but also no blind criticism" - the 14th Dalai Lama
"The Blessed One has set in motion the unexcelled Wheel of Dhamma that cannot be stopped by brahmins, devas, Maras, Brahmas or anyone in the cosmos." -Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta
DooDoot wrote:
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
Many women in the modern world generally, hope to have a fulfilling career rather than being an "ideal wife"!
Here's one of my favourite verses:
I.11 — Mutta {v. 11}
So freed! So thoroughly freed am I! —
from three crooked things set free:
from mortar, pestle,
& crooked old husband.
Having uprooted the craving
that leads to becoming,
I'm set free from aging & death.
So freed! So thoroughly freed am I! —
from three crooked things set free:
from mortar, pestle,
& crooked old husband.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
DooDoot wrote:
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
Many women in the modern world generally, hope to have a fulfilling career rather than being an "ideal wife"!
Here's one of my favourite verses:
I.11 — Mutta {v. 11}
So freed! So thoroughly freed am I! —
from three crooked things set free:
from mortar, pestle,
& crooked old husband.
Having uprooted the craving
that leads to becoming,
I'm set free from aging & death.
They probably attained the noble path after they finished with their instinctual lustful reproductive duties; which probably occurred prior to them learning about the Buddha-Dhamma.
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
Doubt that. Visakha was a sotapanna at age 7. and got married and reproduced many times throughout her life far beyond the age of 7.
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.
They probably attained the noble path after they finished with their instinctual lustful reproductive duties; which probably occurred prior to them learning about the Buddha-Dhamma.
Women with such underlying enlightenment potential today would probably not get married & therefore not become a "wife". This topic appears illogical.
Doubt that. Visakha was a sotapanna at age 7. and got married and reproduced many times throughout her life far beyond the age of 7.
a prior topic about Visakha.
there is an pdf link from a book edited by Bhikkhu Bodhi.
It's the six year wedding anniversary for me and my ideal wife today.
Metta,
Paul.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
