Hi suaimhneas,
(7sb) satta -(sam)-bojjh-aṅgaṃ, seven-awakening-factors are not just a causal sequence, and there are many ways to use it.
For example, 4 jhānas can be seen as 4 quality levels of samādhi-sambojjhanga.
But also, 7sb can be seen as factors in each of the 4 jhānas.
In third jhāna, the formula explicitly lists (S&S) sati & sam-pajāno, remembering & lucid-discerning , corresponding to (7sb → 1. sati) and (7sb → 2. Dhamma-vicaya), and also 7sb7 (upekkha). Sukha, which has 7sb5 (passadhi/pacification) as a prerequisite, so even though 7sb5 not explicitly stated, it's there in 3rd jhāna. 7sb3 viriya, is also not stated, but it's there as well. So of the 7 factors in 7sb, only piti is not present in third jhāna.
Therefore 7sb is not a casual sequence where all previous factors have to be abandoned to reach the next one.
the rest of my response to your question here:
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... o-and.html
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Cool, thanks. I'll take a look.
Re: New book from Venerable Analayo
fourth installment:
MN 117 and its implications
It's not easy to explain, so first I need to explain a few concepts.
If you don't understand survivorship bias, bandwagon effect, and cognitive dissonance, it won't be easy to follow the audit.
So first, a parable that explains the big problem that I'm going to expose with Ven. Analayo's lack of mention of MN 117 in EBMS.
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... farm.html
excerpt:
A long time ago, in paradise valley, Sid and his family, with the surname of Gotonirvana, had a farm collective, growing a rich variety of fruits. They tasted extraordinary, and the fruit was completely wholesome and nutritious. Their fruit was available far and wide, famous everywhere.
their advertisement read:
Sid and Gotonirvana family farms,
quenching thirst with the tastiest fruit
with an entirely complete and pure variety of fruits.
MN 117 and its implications
It's not easy to explain, so first I need to explain a few concepts.
If you don't understand survivorship bias, bandwagon effect, and cognitive dissonance, it won't be easy to follow the audit.
So first, a parable that explains the big problem that I'm going to expose with Ven. Analayo's lack of mention of MN 117 in EBMS.
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... farm.html
excerpt:
A long time ago, in paradise valley, Sid and his family, with the surname of Gotonirvana, had a farm collective, growing a rich variety of fruits. They tasted extraordinary, and the fruit was completely wholesome and nutritious. Their fruit was available far and wide, famous everywhere.
their advertisement read:
Sid and Gotonirvana family farms,
quenching thirst with the tastiest fruit
with an entirely complete and pure variety of fruits.
frank k wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:45 pm third installment:
Case study on intellectual dishonesty, agendas, biases: Frankk and his views on jhāna, vitakka, vicara
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... esty.html
second installment:
MN 111 Bhikkhu Analayo, circular reasoning and red herrings
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ular.html
First installment:
covers MN 128, SN 40.1, narrative fallacy
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ayos.html
www.lucid24.org/sted : ☸Lucid24.org STED definitions
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
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Re: New book from Venerable Analayo
fifth installment:
Sunday, February 17, 2019
So why are references to MN 117 missing in Bhikkhu Anālayo's EBMS?
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... sing.html
(sums up and connects the other posts related to MN 117)
There are several blog posts on MN 117 (in the blog subject titles) between today (2/17) and (2/14).
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2019/02/
Sunday, February 17, 2019
So why are references to MN 117 missing in Bhikkhu Anālayo's EBMS?
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... sing.html
(sums up and connects the other posts related to MN 117)
There are several blog posts on MN 117 (in the blog subject titles) between today (2/17) and (2/14).
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2019/02/
frank k wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:47 pm fourth installment:
MN 117 and its implications
It's not easy to explain, so first I need to explain a few concepts.
If you don't understand survivorship bias, bandwagon effect, and cognitive dissonance, it won't be easy to follow the audit.
So first, a parable that explains the big problem that I'm going to expose with Ven. Analayo's lack of mention of MN 117 in EBMS.
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... farm.html
excerpt:
A long time ago, in paradise valley, Sid and his family, with the surname of Gotonirvana, had a farm collective, growing a rich variety of fruits. They tasted extraordinary, and the fruit was completely wholesome and nutritious. Their fruit was available far and wide, famous everywhere.
their advertisement read:
Sid and Gotonirvana family farms,
quenching thirst with the tastiest fruit
with an entirely complete and pure variety of fruits.
frank k wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:45 pm third installment:
Case study on intellectual dishonesty, agendas, biases: Frankk and his views on jhāna, vitakka, vicara
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... esty.html
second installment:
MN 111 Bhikkhu Analayo, circular reasoning and red herrings
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ular.html
First installment:
covers MN 128, SN 40.1, narrative fallacy
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ayos.html
www.lucid24.org/sted : ☸Lucid24.org STED definitions
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
Re: New book from Venerable Analayo
sixth installment
sunday feb. 24
MN 19, MN 78, MN 125 when Bhikkhu Anālayo met Occam's razor
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... layo.html
I've built a one stop V&V shop containing Bhikkhu Anālayo, Bhikkhu Sujato's views on V&V here:
https://archive.org/details/Lucid24Vita ... a/page/n5
The one stop V&V shop, where errant views meet the chopping block.
sunday feb. 24
MN 19, MN 78, MN 125 when Bhikkhu Anālayo met Occam's razor
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... layo.html
I've built a one stop V&V shop containing Bhikkhu Anālayo, Bhikkhu Sujato's views on V&V here:
https://archive.org/details/Lucid24Vita ... a/page/n5
The one stop V&V shop, where errant views meet the chopping block.
frank k wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:32 pm fifth installment:
Sunday, February 17, 2019
So why are references to MN 117 missing in Bhikkhu Anālayo's EBMS?
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... sing.html
(sums up and connects the other posts related to MN 117)
There are several blog posts on MN 117 (in the blog subject titles) between today (2/17) and (2/14).
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2019/02/
frank k wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:47 pm fourth installment:
MN 117 and its implications
It's not easy to explain, so first I need to explain a few concepts.
If you don't understand survivorship bias, bandwagon effect, and cognitive dissonance, it won't be easy to follow the audit.
So first, a parable that explains the big problem that I'm going to expose with Ven. Analayo's lack of mention of MN 117 in EBMS.
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... farm.html
excerpt:
A long time ago, in paradise valley, Sid and his family, with the surname of Gotonirvana, had a farm collective, growing a rich variety of fruits. They tasted extraordinary, and the fruit was completely wholesome and nutritious. Their fruit was available far and wide, famous everywhere.
their advertisement read:
Sid and Gotonirvana family farms,
quenching thirst with the tastiest fruit
with an entirely complete and pure variety of fruits.
frank k wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:45 pm third installment:
Case study on intellectual dishonesty, agendas, biases: Frankk and his views on jhāna, vitakka, vicara
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... esty.html
second installment:
MN 111 Bhikkhu Analayo, circular reasoning and red herrings
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ular.html
First installment:
covers MN 128, SN 40.1, narrative fallacy
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ayos.html
www.lucid24.org/sted : ☸Lucid24.org STED definitions
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
Re: New book from Venerable Analayo
book: Bhikkhu Anālayo's mistranslation of V&V
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... n-of.html
sixth installment
sunday feb. 24
MN 19, MN 78, MN 125 when Bhikkhu Anālayo met Occam's razor
thur. feb 28,
the exciting but bloody conclusion to their meeting:
☸ MN 19, 78, 125 final score: Occam's razor six, Bhikkhu Anālayo zero
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... n-of.html
sixth installment
sunday feb. 24
MN 19, MN 78, MN 125 when Bhikkhu Anālayo met Occam's razor
thur. feb 28,
the exciting but bloody conclusion to their meeting:
☸ MN 19, 78, 125 final score: Occam's razor six, Bhikkhu Anālayo zero
www.lucid24.org/sted : ☸Lucid24.org STED definitions
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
www.audtip.org/audtip: Audio Tales in Pāli: ☸Dharma and Vinaya in many languages
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Re: New book from Venerable Analayo
new installment #7
https://notesonthedhamma.blogspot.com/2 ... ayos.html
I have one or two more installments coming through, then I'll wrap it up with a conclusion,
put it all together in a book epub.
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