devas visited indian people ancient time but not now?

[confusedlayman]

ancient time in india both in hindu as well as buddhist tradition, devas visited them to tell even small matter but now no one sees them nor deva appear before them voluntierly. why is this ?

[Crazy cloud]

How do you know?

[JamesTheGiant]

It is the same in Europe. Many angels and demons and spirits in the past, but not now.

Researchers have shown the decline in reports of supernatural beings is strongly correlated with the rise of public education.

This was especially seen during the French revolution when the English had schools, but the school system in France completely collapsed. The public in France then reported many many more times the amount of supernatural beings than the English, but then the schools reopened in France and the reports of supernatural beings went down again.

[Crazy cloud]

Public "education", aggressive health care, social ridicule, and lack of wholeheartedly devotion is the cause of decline in reports of heavenly beings.

[SarathW]

When I was young a woman used to say "Illuminated Deva travel from such place to such and such place"
Now I know she was talking about meteorites.
I have seen and heard about some strange smokes and clouds etc which I believe that they are Ghosts.
Unfortunately, I never came across Deva except for a human Deva.

[Lucas Oliveira]

There are gods, miracles do happen
https://www.budsas.org/ebud/ebdha297.htm

Ghosts of the Mountain
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=30089

[tamdrin]

ancient time in india both in hindu as well as buddhist tradition, devas visited them to tell even small matter but now no one sees them nor deva appear before them voluntierly. why is this ?

Maybe because India used to be more pure than it Is today. A time when more people followed the dhamma.

[Jayanti]

Maybe because India used to be more pure than it Is today. A time when more people followed the dhamma.

This is true.

[No_Mind]

ancient time in india both in hindu as well as buddhist tradition, devas visited them to tell even small matter but now no one sees them nor deva appear before them voluntierly. why is this ?

As far as Hinduism goes, Gods walked the earth in other ages Satya, Treta, Dwyapar. This is Kali Yuga or end times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga

[Zom]

ancient time in india both in hindu as well as buddhist tradition, devas visited them to tell even small matter but now no one sees them nor deva appear before them voluntierly. why is this ?

They never did. If you read suttas very carefully, you will see that only those who had Divine Eye could see devas.

[confusedlayman]

ancient time in india both in hindu as well as buddhist tradition, devas visited them to tell even small matter but now no one sees them nor deva appear before them voluntierly. why is this ?

They never did. If you read suttas very carefully, you will see that only those who had Divine Eye could see devas.

not always. sometimes they themselves appear and talk if they find any interest in us!

[DooDoot]

sometimes they themselves appear and talk if they find any interest in us!

no. in the suttas, i only recall the devas visited the enlightened ones rather than the puthujjana.

[Aloka]

in the suttas, i only recall the devas visited the enlightened ones rather than the puthujjana.

Yes, and I'm reminded of one of my favourite suttas SN 1.10 :

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .irel.html



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[sentinel]

Devas find this world no more attractive i guess .
Perhaps the Buddha also missed out the aliens being ? Not categorized in the 31 planes .

[confusedlayman]

Devas find this world no more attractive i guess .
Perhaps the Buddha also missed out the aliens being ? Not categorized in the 31 planes .

alines cant be one types of lower deva or solid asuras with greed and anger..??? or any new being in sence sphere.