On Your Way Home - A Road to Nirvana for the West

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths - what can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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rhinoceroshorn wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:52 pm
PeterC86 wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:26 am I have one more thing to add; those who have been indoctrinated don't know that they have been indoctrinated, else they would not be indoctrinated. Theravada is a doctrine, and what you get is the blind leading the blind.
Today I read such things and laugh.
I also laugh when someone doubts Buddha-Dhamma, enlightenment, stages of enlightenment, karma and other things.

I started to understand why advanced people on the path like teachers in general keep things in secrecy and only share them when asked or when they find very convenient.

I now understand why the Buddha almost gave up teaching the Dhamma. If that Brahma God had not asked him to do so, we would probably be doomed now.
true.. even now u also would have felt the same after validating the dhamma... see my post in another thread where i posted buddhism is not for everyone...
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It is diffucult to help someone to get out of a self-chosen deadlock when that deadlock is based on an experience that has been felt to be extraordinary and has not been known before. Such experiences may happen and may easily be miscontrued because conceit readily grasps those as 'me' and 'mine' and fabricates narratives around it that are inspired by what one has heard or learned. Since there is no possibility to communicate such experiences to others as words are not identical with experiences it might happen that if these experiences are grasped as 'me' and 'mine' alleged self is driven into some kind of isolation.
Therefore the Buddha's advice should be followed on all occasions and in the context of all experiences:
"And, venerable sir, how does self-identity view not come into being?"

"There is the case, householder, where a well-instructed disciple of the noble ones — who has regard for noble ones, is well-versed & disciplined in their Dhamma; who has regard for men of integrity, is well-versed & disciplined in their Dhamma — does not assume form to be the self, or the self as possessing form, or form as in the self, or the self as in form. He does not assume feeling to be the self... He does not assume perception to be the self... He does not assume fabrications to be the self... He does not assume consciousness to be the self, or the self as possessing consciousness, or consciousness as in the self, or the self as in consciousness. This is how self-identity view does not come into being."
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... 3.than.htm
Exhaling अ and inhaling धीः amounts to བྷྲཱུཾ་བི་ཤྭ་བི་ཤུད་དྷེ It's definitely not science but science may provide guidelines nevertheless.
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Hello,

I am looking for someone who is willing to edit the book, as I am not a native English speaker and I keep finding linguistical errors. So if someone is a native English speaker, or is more proficient in the English language than me, and is willing, and able, to put some effort into it, please PM me and I can send you the book in Word format. This editing can be done anonymously, but I will be happy to write a thank you note to your name in the book.

I am willing to let your creativity go free to edit it as you wish, because maybe sentences, or the entire book itself, could be better structured, or things could possibly be better explained. I am not pretending to be a perfect author, nor perfect in any other sense, and I am very open to improvements for the benefit of the reader. The final product will be in according to our mutual satisfaction, although I will bare the responsibility to make the final decision, as the author, if there in some way remains a disagreement about the work.

One shouldn't necessarily take this as a big undertaking. If someone is willing to only correct linguistical errors, I will be more than happy.

Hope to hear from you, and a big thank you in advance!

Warm regards,
Peter
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PeterC86 wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:57 am Hello,

I am looking for someone who is willing to edit the book, as I am not a native English speaker and I keep finding linguistical errors. So if someone is a native English speaker, or is more proficient in the English language than me, and is willing, and able, to put some effort into it, please PM me and I can send you the book in Word format. This editing can be done anonymously, but I will be happy to write a thank you note to your name in the book.

I am willing to let your creativity go free to edit it as you wish, because maybe sentences, or the entire book itself, could be better structured, or things could possibly be better explained. I am not pretending to be a perfect author, nor perfect in any other sense, and I am very open to improvements for the benefit of the reader. The final product will be in according to our mutual satisfaction, although I will bare the responsibility to make the final decision, as the author, if there in some way remains a disagreement about the work.

One shouldn't necessarily take this as a big undertaking. If someone is willing to only correct linguistical errors, I will be more than happy.

Hope to hear from you, and a big thank you in advance!

Warm regards,
Peter
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confusedlayman wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:38 am
I am planning to write a book, can be 1 page and still be called as book?

Is English not your first language?

Here's a definition of "book" from the Cambridge Dictionary:

"a set of pages that have been fastened together inside a cover to be read or written in"

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... glish/book

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:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost:
Aloka wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:51 am
confusedlayman wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:38 am
I am planning to write a book, can be 1 page and still be called as book?

Is English not your first language?

Here's a definition of "book" from the Cambridge Dictionary:

"a set of pages that have been fastened together inside a cover to be read or written in"

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... glish/book

:reading:


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I am glad to have finished the third edition of the book. A lot has changed in relation to the previous version. Although the previous version has a complete explanation of the path, it is overly detailed in parts that are not strictly necessary to understand the path. These parts could create a lot of distraction and confusion for the reader to understand what it is really about. I see that now, after I took some distance from the book and the path, and had a considerable amount of time to reflect upon it. It was my best attempt to explain the path, until now.

In addition to scrapping the overly detailed parts, I came to the realization that I could also summarize certain steps in the mind, making the whole exercise shorter and easier for the student. I also fixed most of the linguistic errors and inconsistencies, and I improved the layout of the book. Finally, I put a lot of effort into improving the flow of my writings. So the essence of the book is still the same, but it reads like a different book.
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I especially like the revised practice chapter although I don't understand it. But I am a fan of brevity ... :lol:
Exhaling अ and inhaling धीः amounts to བྷྲཱུཾ་བི་ཤྭ་བི་ཤུད་དྷེ It's definitely not science but science may provide guidelines nevertheless.
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SteRo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 am But I am a fan of brevity ... :lol:
Thats why u like instant madhyamaka instead of practice of theraveda
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confusedlayman wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am
SteRo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 am But I am a fan of brevity ... :lol:
Thats why u like instant madhyamaka instead of practice of theraveda
Well but "instant madhyamaka" has required quite some preparation ;)
Exhaling अ and inhaling धीः amounts to བྷྲཱུཾ་བི་ཤྭ་བི་ཤུད་དྷེ It's definitely not science but science may provide guidelines nevertheless.
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SteRo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:50 amWell but "instant madhyamaka" has required quite some preparation
Madhyamaka = Gibberish
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DooDoot wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:52 amMadhyamaka = Gibberish
I hold the opinion that Madhyamaka is praxis that looks like philosophy to an outsider. To follow Madhyamaka's thought experiments, to herd one's thoughts to their outermost limits and let them fall off at the edge of the cliff, is to extinguish their flame in nibbana, resting unburdened. Sometimes a hyper person needs to run a mile until exhaustion for relaxation to naturally overtake their body. For those of us with hyper minds, Madhyamaka can be an antidote.
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DooDoot wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:52 am
SteRo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:50 amWell but "instant madhyamaka" has required quite some preparation
Madhyamaka = Gibberish
Definition of gibberish

: unintelligible or meaningless language:
a : a technical or esoteric (see esoteric sense 1) language
//The doctors spoke to one another in their medical gibberish that I was unable to follow.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gibberish

This definition applies. Madhyamaka is applying a language DooDoot is unable to follow.
Exhaling अ and inhaling धीः amounts to བྷྲཱུཾ་བི་ཤྭ་བི་ཤུད་དྷེ It's definitely not science but science may provide guidelines nevertheless.
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